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At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« on: August 23, 2010, 02:29:24 pm »
FeaturesZCS          WCS          FXS          ES
GUI-yesyes-
fancy entryyesyes--
country on entry-yes--
client on entryyes-yesyes
joined withyes-yesyes
fancy exityes---
staytime on exityes---
multi-line pic formats3 lineyesyes-
custom commandsRC1yes--
multi join same ip5yesyesyes
large picsyesyesyesyes
protect host on redirectyes-yesloopback
room passwordyes-yes-
hide & hidecmdyesyes--
online offline cmdyes-yes-
check connection cmdyes---
custom opmsg & actionyes---
split config filesyes---
block-yesyesyes
block nameyesyes--
block wordyesyesyes-
blockkick & blockban--yes-
replaceyesyesyesyes
replace wordyesyesyes-
flood controlyesyes-yes
flood kick--yes-
anti-spam kick--yes-
kickIPyes-yes-
hostname resolveyes---
user is typing (wpcc)-yes-yes
shows baned user attempt          -yesyesyes
tray icon-yesyes-

My Conclusion:


[ZCS] Points against = only allowing 5 names on a single IP,
[ZCS] Points in favour = low memory usage, very stable, easy edit config's, lots of features.


[WCS] Points against = not as many features as the others,
[WCS] Points in favour = low memory usage, some features had been added to the last versions.


[ES] Points against = not many features, not very bot friendly,
[ES] Points in favour = low memory usage, 2 language .txt files.

[FXS] Points against = unstable, closes/crashes without reason or warning/error message,
[FXS] points in favour = config in 2 languages.

Note: if i have missed anything important, sorry.



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 10:40:22 pm »
Max, this looks great.

I've made this a sticky, I think the table of features will be a great benefit to the community.
I'm sure there will be more users who disagree with your conculsions than agree, but thats the thing about opinions.
Thanks for knocking this together Max.

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 11:17:49 pm »
ES supports 'now typing' ... was the first one that did...

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 11:32:09 pm »
oops, sorry yes, i cant ammend it, if some nice admin wishes to, cos the edit button is invisible, thanks



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 11:36:43 pm »
hope i got the right one

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 11:57:22 pm »
Sorry but those are not the top 4 chat servers.

As much as I hate to admit it RSWCS has a bigger market share than eagle's server does.

These numbers are based on sole chat rooms. Multiple channel names are not counted. This is using the extra information sent after the topic on primary channel listings and the topic if nothing is sent in the extra information area.

This is as of a few minutes ago.


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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 12:27:45 am »
Looks like a nice list Max.

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 01:46:47 am »
@Simba; skanks server may have a bigger market share but lets not promote it more than it needs to be..... skanks scare tactics/room hopping are enough...

@all;

ZCS;
http://pages.usherbrooke.ca/dsaulnier/ZenMX/  (official)
http://archive.winmxworld.com/Zenar/Zenar%20Chat%20Server/ (wmw archive)

WCS;
http://wcs.mxstuff.org/ (bide & musique -- official?)

FXS;
http://archive.winmxworld.com/Fx%20Server/ (wmw archive -- official down?)

ES;
http://archive.winmxworld.com/Eagle/E-Serv/ (wmw archive -- official down?)

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 07:44:00 am »
Hiya,
@ Simba, my original one on my forum did include Richy's wcs, but here it is not supported,
my conclusions was not based on how many use the servers, it was my round up of what i thing is the best for reliability and features,
like FX is good, but as it has a nack of crashing without warning, makes it less than top.

Thanks Stripes,
and the wcs Bide & Musique worked on was incomplete,
the final version that Mind added the extra features to wcs 1.8.8 is here
http://maxtech.youneed.us/downloads-desk-for-servers-clients-bots-other-tools-f1/wcs-winmx-chat-sever-windows-linux-t548.htm



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 02:38:28 pm »
hope i got the right one
Yes you did thanks ST.

Looks like a nice list Max.
thanks Pri



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 02:55:23 am »
One other note to add is the WCS Linux doesn't have a GUI.  it runs in a terminal window

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 07:49:57 am »
Oh thanks Thunderwinds,
as im not a linux user, i can only got by my windows xp, sorry to all those linux users if any info is incorrect,

another point i can make, now i use ZCS, it has come to light that users with Talk Talk as their ISP, can enter and talk in ZCS hosted rooms,
but can not in other rooms hosted on WCS & FX, the main problems are, the MOTD doesnt fully load, the user list doesn't load and they cant see what is typed or what they type, but we can see what they type,
some of the SIP's include: Pipex, Opal, Tiscalli, Bulldog just to name a few that have been taken over by Talk Talk,
also I heard somewhere that AOL & Talk Talk have merged,

The top 3 ISP's that was restricting users was,
1, Talk Talk
2, Tiscalli
3, AOL
Now the top 3 has merged to become the worst nightmare for alot of users.



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 09:47:46 am »
Sounds like thats not a real ISP as they must be messing with users traffic, this could be a case for "interception of communication act" proceedings, Talk talk are big on promises but low on delivery it seems.

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 05:15:08 pm »
Seems Max doesn't know all the features of ES:

 - all the server messages are configurable in the language file in ES, so you want a fancy entry you just configure it - same with the exit message, custom opmsg (opmsg can be colored as well), and action message or whatever. All that in any language you want - once you translate it :P
 - multi-line text or pics can be done with /n (newline)...
 - multi-join same IP is configurable...
 - if by on/-offline command you mean can it connect/disconnect to wpn - ES can do that by simply setting the number of wpn connections to 0...
 - blocking names or words it can do as well plus you can configure what happens when blocked words are used (1=Block+nothing 2=Block+kick 3=Block+kickban)...
 - of course it kicks on flood...
 - kickip is no problem either...

Unfortunately most of these features are not well known but with ES you can configure all this from within the room (if you've got the right access level)
and simply save the config just like when hosting with winmx itself.
Also a lot of the commands from the winmx commands menu just work.
Another feature hardly anyone knows about is the web status page of ES (http://78.47.24.174:47777/ is the page for the wmw help room)

All in all ES has much more features most people give it credit for - all it lacks is a fancy gui :)

BTW: Sorry for going into this in so much detail but I really feel ES deserves some more recognition then it currently gets
cause it's certainly MY top choice for a chat server that simply runs and does it's job without a hassle for days, week, months...
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OH - and the official page is here: http://www.hackroom.org/winmx

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 06:57:46 pm »
Thanks Nylly for pointing it out,
i didnt know about all the features, i did know about block-kick or block-ban, but i know its either all or nothing, you cant pick seperate block-kicks and blocks, also as there is no /help alot of people including myself wont know what is there until they try it, sorry.



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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 07:14:36 pm »
Well, we actually have a tutorial for ES right here:  http://www.winmxworld.com/tutorials/eserv-hosting_guide.html

Admittedly just a few features are exlained, but there's a complete list of commands if you click on it, complete with explanations.

The main problem with ES is that the original is in italian and translation hasn't been easy.

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[]...alot of people including myself wont know what is there until they try it, sorry.
That's why I felt the need to post and add some things ;)

I'm well aware that ES might be not the most obvious choice, still it shouldn't be shortchanged IMO 8)

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2010, 12:15:25 am »
ES actually does start sounding more intresting ..especially because there's also a linux version (i might try this one soon)
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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2010, 02:56:01 am »
The main reason that people have held onto fxserver is due to the user interface. People want something that is easy to use and customize without having to read through a howto guide. They just want it to work. Seeing as how ES and ZCS do not have a user interface that's the reason they're less popular.  WCS at least has a user interface and that's why it's the 2nd most used.

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2010, 03:37:48 am »
To me the main drawback of ES is the hierarchical admin structure.  I find it not to be as concussive to bot games though with a little tweeking they are plenty playable.  It is the most configurable of the chat servers that I've used, though i still prefer wcs. I may have to take a look at that documentation now that it's been translated, when I last tried it i managed a rough translation of it with google translate which helped some.

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Re: At-A-Glance Top 4 Server Comparison
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2010, 11:42:11 pm »
That's exactly why I posted some more info about ES - I think it's worth people taking a closer look at it.

Of course it's less popular with people wanting a user interface - but it's a nice choice for people that don't change their configs much.
Pretty much everything in the configuration can be done in the room though and a simple /savecfg will save it to a file.
The only thing that really bothers me about ES it that all basns will be lost after a restart unless you save them somewhere or put them in the config manually.

The config file is basically a batch file setting all these config options at start, everything that's configurable from within the room can be put into the config and vice versa.

ES might not be an obvious choice but it's well worth looking into :)
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