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Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« on: March 20, 2016, 07:36:16 PM »
It seems MS are hell bent on annoying anyone that does not wish to join their application fee based offering.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/17/microsoft_windows_10_upgrade_gwx_vs_humanity/

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Microsoft uses techniques similar to aggressive malware to promote its “Get Windows 10” offer.

As many readers have discovered, the persistent and constantly changing methods Microsoft uses to continually reintroduce its “Get Windows 10” tool, or GWX, onto computers means it’s extremely difficult to avoid.

Windows users who decline to use it find it is repeatedly reintroduced. The language of the counter-malware industry is more appropriate than the language of enterprise IT for GWX.
GWX subverts a channel intended for one purpose (security hotfixes) for another (advertising); it changes its “attack vectors”, it uses “polymorphic” techniques; and it consistently overrides users' actions and permissions.

Much of the attention in the tech press on combatting GWX has been has focused on eliminating the work of one patch, KB3035583, which constantly reappears on users' PCs, even after removal. However, an investigation shows that ‘583 is a symptom, rather than the cause, of recurring GWX infestations.

The ‘583 patch is most commonly reinstalled by another patch, KB2952664. Once ‘664 is on a system, '583 will be requested for download and installation. Getting rid of, and thereby controlling, '664 could be the key to controlling the sophisticated "Get Windows 10" nagware network.

It seems folks have little choice in the brave new windows world, they purchased their operating systems with hard cash and now the OS vendor is abusing its position to harangue folks into downgrading their working system for something decidedly less useful, what was once free will now become a pay for product in many areas and force many folks to trash their older hardware platforms to keep MS happy, why don't they have the decency to leave folks alone once its clear they don't wish to downgrade to MS's latest fad ware.

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Re: Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2016, 01:05:19 AM »
windows 10 is why i run linux

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Re: Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2016, 10:47:10 AM »
A sensible plan Stripes  8)

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Re: Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2016, 05:46:48 PM »
I remember several years ago MS sacked the windows development team and replaced them with new people. I hoped that the new people would be better and develop a windows that actually would do what the customers wanted. Instead these mongrels are even worse, for they have produced what is the worst windows ever for spyware and for buyware through their store, and a malicious nagging way trying to compel people to buy it.




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Re: Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 10:27:34 AM »
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develop a windows that actually would do what the customers wanted

so windows NT 4.0, XP and 7 with separate admin and daily use user accounts?

the NT kernels are quite usable if microsoft would have enforced the user/admin barrier a little harder and a lot earlier ... peerblock is a great example of how not to write windows software (anything that triggers a UAC prompt thats not an installer is bad software) ...

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 12:46:56 PM »
I believe that was one of Microsoft's pay us a developers licence fee or face disruption tricks, to operate at a deep level to spy on the data packets before they hit anything crucial you need kernel level access and that's not something everyone wants to grant to every random developer that asks for it even if they have a decent need such as with peerblock, I lost heart with such projects after they showed themselves as random groups gathering IP,s but without any commitment to remove such numbers in any decent time or any rational reason for adding them in the first place in many cases after having examined many supposed "dangers".

Great idea if you want to ban the entire internet but aside that a smaller more dynamic set of IP's would suit the most folks..

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Re: Fun & Games Fighting Win10 Nagware
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 02:36:31 PM »
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you need kernel level access and that's not something everyone wants to grant to every random developer that asks for it

the kernel access part should have been installed as a system service tho.. not run as a 9x era style program..

another great example of bad software is almicos speedfan utility.. it installs the services it needs but instead of the program itself being a service it installs a rather dangerous service called giveio.sys ... essentially allowing non root users access to the hardware itself... ...yet more 9x style thinking...

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