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Title: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Old Gunny on July 02, 2011, 11:03:34 am
I'm a very old user of winmx and lately it seems that searching is getting a lot of  garbage.
Example a search of "Cher" gives me not only Cher but weird character titles, Carpenters and all kinds of stuff, including porn.
Refining to Cher Albw gives the same. Are we under attack, does anyone know what's going on?  :(
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: tig on July 02, 2011, 12:02:19 pm
Hi Old Gunny

Have a read of these:

http://winmxworld.com/tutorials/wpn_attack_information_.html
http://forum.winmxworld.com/index.php/topic,10932.0.html
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: allenx1966 on July 03, 2011, 10:43:13 am
Winmx is dead Gunny ........... do what i did, get your learn on about torrents.  at this point even if Winmx gets fixed, the amount of users will not be enough to share anything worth while .
  i have used winmx since it was created, i never thought this day would come .......
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 03, 2011, 01:09:13 pm
Yeah lets learn about torrents, it' s system where your IP address is automatically logged by unscrupulous companies that specialise in shaking down file sharers, at least 50,000 +folks last year in the US alone got legal threats using torrent clients and zero using winmx I wonder why anyone uses Torrents when the chances of paying 1-3000 dollars is so much higher.

I know you may not be aware of this Allenx but this site is not a place to advertise Bit torrent, its a WinMX support site if you wish to leave the community then thats your choice but please stop trying to use our resources to suggest others should.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: paranoid_123 on July 03, 2011, 03:32:39 pm
@allenx1966:
I don't know any filesharing program other than winmx which enables you NOT to upload partial files while you're downloading them and let's you decide whom you're uploding your files to.

The 'autoupload feature' in other programs is the number one reason why people are getting sued or at least get legal notices wanting 1-3000$ from them!

I.E. , in my country of origin the courts will not make your ISP give out your address if you just downloaded a file RIAA etc was monitoring. You have to upload monitored material! So if you choose wisely what you share you're almost 99,99% safe when using WinMX, atleast where I live and my guess is that in most countries it is handeled the same way.

Even OCHs are safer than filesharing programs with 'autoupload feature'.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 03, 2011, 04:47:57 pm
ofc that mentality means fewer files on mx and the ones that are there are behind moni and/or 100+ deep in queue....

someone has to upload for someone else to download.... :/
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: paranoid_123 on July 03, 2011, 05:08:00 pm
Sorry SilverStripes, but anyone living in a country where you get scre*ed by lawyers as soon as they upload monitored files (or pron) doesn't have an alternative to share older files (or other files where it's very unlikely they're monitored) and /or use moni/leechhammer ... OK there is the alternative to get vpn sevices, but even they will give out your address on a court order...

I would love to share a lot more, and I'm sure many others would too, but I will not finance new porsches for a whole hord of  lawyers!

Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 03, 2011, 05:22:20 pm
http://www.jamendo.com/

http://vo.do/

http://www.publicdomaintorrents.com/

http://www.gutenberg.org/


plenty of 'alternates' out there :)
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 03, 2011, 06:58:33 pm
Hopefully there will be a fix soon, and maybe the new patch will even give some more inavative ideals for the new client protocol. Maybe the new client can adobt a better way of filtering out malicious traffic with what has been developed in the new patch. I'm trying to stay positive.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 03, 2011, 07:20:18 pm
That is the best thing to do Achilles, no one is saying that using the network while its under attack is anything like easy but most of you wouldnt give in to bullies in real life and know what the attackers are doing is wrong, for those reasons alone I urge all winmx users to use their prescence here to show solidarity against the attackers, we will win out against them as we will never give up, as long as they know that we are still masters of our own P2p network, no one owns the WPN and no ones going to steal if from us.

Stand united folks, and join the thousands of smiling faces when such attacks are just history and no longer possible  :yes:
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 03, 2011, 07:25:47 pm
Winmx is dead Gunny ........... do what i did, get your learn on about torrents.  at this point even if Winmx gets fixed, the amount of users will not be enough to share anything worth while .
  i have used winmx since it was created, i never thought this day would come .......


Fix it, and they will come. I use Utorrent for torrents, but no torrent client can ever replace WinMx for me. It was the safest network of all the P2P networks, and it also gave me more control over who I share with. Nice to make friends, and trade with regulars. I also found many files that I could not find with torrent trackers. People tend to share older files, and not just newer ones like torrent trackers.  The thing is I always made friends with who ever shared common interest files instead of meeting them in a chat room so the search funtion was a necessity for me. Its just impossible & way too time consumming to find files by having to browse dozens of users in a chat room. I have nothing against torrents, and other networks. I believe in giving credit where credit is due. We would not want other P2P network users talking bad about the WinMx network. Users should know the risk involved though which should be discussed, but in a proffesional manner. Like I said i use Utorrent, and I also use Xtreme Mod for e-mule client. I always give honest evaluations or opinions without bias agendas. I get frustrated just like the rest of you do, but I will not falter so easily. There's nothing out there at the moment that will replace WinMx for me.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 03, 2011, 07:36:08 pm
Well said Achilles, I,m sure many folks use different p2p nets to supplement their downloading activity and if they enjoy them they should continue to do so but I do think its only fair to all that we don't have to put up with BT spam on our WinMX specific site, we don't after all go spamming bittorent sites with pro WinMX spam, its simply respectful to leave WinMX user their own space on the internet.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 03, 2011, 10:12:59 pm
have to honestly say... there are p2p out there that can replace mx for me... the thing that holds me to mx is the 'tinker' factor... like that old car that mostly sits in the garage and only gets driven once in a blue moon but gets its engine tinkered with quite often...

not practical, not efficient, not even that pleasant to drive... but an interesting toy nonetheless....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 04, 2011, 02:35:28 am
have to honestly say... there are p2p out there that can replace mx for me... the thing that holds me to mx is the 'tinker' factor... like that old car that mostly sits in the garage and only gets driven once in a blue moon but gets its engine tinkered with quite often...

not practical, not efficient, not even that pleasant to drive... but an interesting toy nonetheless....
Well to be honest as I always am, the current state of WinMx is pretty useless to me.  If we had a new client with a changed protocol so there was no 2GB file size limit, improved hashing, improved stability, security enhancements, and IPV6 compatibility it would be exactly what i need & want.  I would only use other clients then when I could not find what i was looking for on the WinMx network.  I don't see no need to change anything else. I don't really mind waiting in a queue, and the GUI is fine the way it is. I'm fine with the fact that it does not use the chunk transfer protocol method, and other faster transfer methods for sharing files.  I'm not trying to replace any torrent client since there are plenty of them to choose from.  WinMx is unique in its own way, and if WinMx had the above updates i mentioned it would have a much larger user base without compromising security & privacy.  It would be a much better client, and we would have a much better network. It would still be the familiar WinMx that we all have enjoyed, and become accustomed to. It would only be the improved client that we have all wanted to see for several years now. I hope coders don't give up on it, and lets try not to give them any reason to run from such a project. We should always be thankful for what we have, and do what we can to encourage coders to take an interest in the project. We all know the current events that have been taking place will not bring any new talent into the community. Do you agree with this Stripes? Do we have the same or a very similar end goal in mind Hypothetically speaking?  Lets just pretend those changes were in reach, and we could have the client I have just described above. Would you be pleased with that? I know I would be ecstatically excited to see such a client & improved network. Like I already said there are plenty of torrent clients & trackers available to choose from so no need to add another one to the mix.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: allenx1966 on July 04, 2011, 03:11:03 am
First off, I don't "advertise" anything, I am a file sharer like everyone else. Secondly , several of you vets here are still acting as if Winmx is working fine, IT IS NOT WORKING. Maybe you have got yours to work with several complicated tweeks and opennap . If i was smart enough to get Winmx to work right now, I would be smart enough to have enough money to buy files rather than share.
  I represent the middle ground guy. I can tweek things a little, and I know enough to build computers. If Winmx is not working for the middle guy, then it is just flat out not working. I have yet to find any information anywhere in the forum that will make my Winmx work right now, and I'm sure I am not the only one. Sorry if that offends the supervisors. My quest is not to upset anyone, my quest is to share files via Winmx, and if not Winmx, then the closest safe alternative. Bottom line, I am here to share files and info with others that want to share files and info. If sharing files and info makes moderators/supervisors mad at me, then the supervisors and moderators have lost total touch of why we are here, and it explains why Winmx is broke with not hope of being fixed. I don't see any problem offering up ideas for people to use other software. I got Limewire pirate running safe,with peerblock. I really don't see why people in any p2p forum would be upset in anyway for me trying share info. The people that run things here are starting to remind me of Metallica and their fall from grace by trying to stop sharing. Why not reply to me with some info that might help,rather than scorn. We all all in this together.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 04, 2011, 03:40:11 am
Just because you have lost hope and cant see the wood from the trees the point I made earlier is still relevant, you dont pay the bills here and those that do really dont want advertising for other networks on this WinMX specific site is that so hard for you to understand ?

You end your post with some off topic nonsense, what do we have in common with metallica ???

I guess from your post your upset and rest assured your not alone in that but also rest assured in the knowledge that there are ongoing efforts to fix the major protocol problem and there has been for some time now, we have hope and trust in succeeding with a fix regardless of the time span its delivered in however in the mean time your posting of all and any p2p networks without thinking of the risks your encouraging folks to take is unhelpful, please cease.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: allenx1966 on July 04, 2011, 05:56:10 am
Well , the new patched Pirate Limewire IS DECENTRALIZED  , and it does torrents as well as straight file sharing. It was fixed and made to work in the same spirit Winmx was fixed at one time. Maybe you THINK you know what I am talking about if you used limewire a year ago. You should try it now ,5.6.2 pirate, if you actually try it,and see how well it works with peerblock, maybe you will be more appreciative of my wanting to share this info with people that may not know it. I have earned my stripes with Winmx, for years I would share the max files,and run bandwidth wide open with primary connection,for days at a time,just to support the network. I can also NOT run static ip with the pirate lime, which allows me to constantly renew my ip address,which does not totally offer protection, but it sure doesn't hurt. It just really baffles me why on a site of this type,anyone would bash someone for offering help. If someone feels it is riskier to share on Limewire,and want to warn of this, thats cool and probably true. You have to remember though, most of the folks getting busted are sharing and downloading thousands more files than the average user. The guy getting 10 to 20 files a month is not at the same risk as someone that devotes their life to file sharing.A small time user like me can get away with more riskier programs like Limewire. Using decentralized pirate limewire with peerblock is working better than winmx has worked in over 3 years. Don't hate the messenger,hate the facts.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 04, 2011, 09:22:17 am
@achilles
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I don't really mind waiting in a queue,

i cant stand it... couldnt stand it in 2002 (which is why i made liberal use of quickmx.. infact i didnt have mx running without quickmx back then) and cant stand it now... esp with torrents around....

the idea to fix such a queue system was used in ares where you queue for a chunk of data rather than the whole file and are in a 'rotation' with other users who want to download... so the file you want actually goes somewhere.... ....ares, despite its comparative efficiency isnt that popular of a network... its a niche just like mx....

just about all the ideas that could be thought of for a system like mx... have... and i really doubt the hardcore traders with mxmoni at their sides would go for the ares style piecemeal transfer system...

unfortunately a lot of winmxs users are set in stone on how it functions as much as the client itself is since frontcode isnt around to release updates... ...in 2002... mx was kickass... in 2011... its uh... well... its an interesting place to use a chat client..?...

once (if? im having serious doubts again) mx is working again its back to square one on the queue problem that has irked many mx users for quite some time... ...frontcode itself used to catch hell for the queue issue...

im a 'datamonger' first... a chatter second... always have been....




@gs;
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You end your post with some off topic nonsense, what do we have in common with metallica ???

hes talking about them going from letting ppl record their live concerts with tape recorders (and then sharing those recordings) to their drummer going nuts and suing the original napster off the face of the planet....

it wasnt off topic... it was quite relevant.... ...ppl who once loved the 'sharing' idea now trying to wipe mx off the web....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 04, 2011, 02:48:47 pm
Ok, Stripes. I thought you would have used WinMx with the updates I mentioned. I was wrong.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 04, 2011, 04:39:44 pm
'updates' id like to see in mx;

md5 hash rather than herns uh... not so good hash... and 64bit file sizes to go with this md5 hashing....

rolling 'segmented' download... keep it linear so the old hats can preview the files but still chop it up into say 512kb chunks... so queues dont 'stall out' ....

the ability to find hash sources from the ppl you are in the same room with ... by whatever means deemed most efficient.... so the awkward 'auto find sources' not finding the file thats obviously in the shares of the person you are talking to wont happen...

ipv6 support (that one may take a while)

upnp that works properly...

encrypted file transfers (pref udp but tcp works too)

anti-leech functions... (you wanna download you need to share too... you want to have only one slot open on a dsl or cable or other broadband connection for upload? then you only get one slot for downloading over that connection... greedy bastards...)


now for the interesting part.... most of that has already been done in other p2p software for quite some time now (chat channel thing im not sure of... i dont use chat on other p2p apps) ... even the antileech functions... (the lopster opennap client has antileech yet it was last updated in 2005)

winmx is very far behind the curve on the technical side of things....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 04, 2011, 07:56:31 pm
Hey Stripes, thanks for the reply! I had already mentioned the updates you just listed in my post except for the chunk transfer method you described. I said, i would be fine without it.  You just went into more detail, and described specifics when I was just mentioning the areas that I believe are critical for WinMx to update.  I would be ok with the chunk transfer method you just described, but I also like the current transfer method because I like trading files as well. I never leach as i'm sure most around here have heard me ranting recently about being really tired of all the leaches. I think something must be done about this issue so if the chunk transfer method solves that then so be it, but I think there could be other options for solving this weakness in the protocol as well.  So i guess for the most part we do want to see the same thing as far as the future of the WinMx client, and Network go.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 04, 2011, 09:33:28 pm
Allenx, you are purposefully overlooking the fact this is a WinMX support site not a general filesharing site, I have asked you at least three times now to stop advertising other p2p nets here, take the hint and respect our commitment to this network and not just any old place where you can obtain files, its not all about files for most users its the hundreds of friends they have here, I have asked you nicely please stop your unhelpful activity.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned winmx is decentralised since your post just like limewire but unlike limewire with peer block we feel its best you don't block 1/3 of the entire internet because some yo-yos at blutak are too lazy to check the IPs after initially adding them to a blocklist.
Limewire is simply one client on a larger network (gnutella) and that network is regularly scanned by the cartels goons for easy meat, your deluding yourself if you think your activities are being hidden especially as the gnutella protocol is in some respects worse that that used by winmx.

@Stripes

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hes talking about them going from letting ppl record their live concerts with tape recorders (and then sharing those recordings) to their drummer going nuts and suing the original napster off the face of the planet....

it wasn't off topic... it was quite relevant.... ...ppl who once loved the 'sharing' idea now trying to wipe mx off the web....


I still don't see what metallica and this site have in common btw even your explanation of Alllenx's diatribe seems pretty flawed since wmw are not attacking the network and thus your own explanation also fails to make sense.

It really pains me to have to have my time wasted by folks who want to leave winmx and think they can drag the rest of the community that's left down with them, it didn't work for KM in 2007 and it wont work for anyone else, accept that and move on if you must, we will miss you for sure but we have hope and faith in a solution and that's worth holding on till its delivered.

Nothing here is done for selfish reasons but on morals and principals and we will not be bullied or threatened into handing users security over to anyone, that includes mis-advising folks as to the safety of other p2p nets.

There are some pretty safe ones I agree but limewire is not one of those.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 04, 2011, 10:02:45 pm
trading is leeching... you are giving preference to a downloader rather than keeping things even...

cant have your cake and eat it too (but you can send that file you want to 'trade' via an im service)
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 04, 2011, 10:06:42 pm
Quote
I still don't see what metallica and this site have in common btw even your explanation of Alllenx's diatribe seems pretty flawed since wmw are not attacking the network and thus your own explanation also fails to make sense.

the attackers not wmw... non sequitur?


btw, if you dont want ppl 'wasing your time' dont reply... there are non-retired site admin for that...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 04, 2011, 11:54:59 pm
If you wish to be rude Stripes I would prefer you did it somewhere else, there are enough children running amok as it is.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 05, 2011, 12:18:33 am
trading is leeching... you are giving preference to a downloader rather than keeping things even...

cant have your cake and eat it too (but you can send that file you want to 'trade' via an im service)
I don't see it that way since I always have at least 2 other upload queues available for anyone without receiving any file in return. I rarely trade, but I like having the option to do so. The majority of the time it's the other person making the request, and I start them without taking any file in return. The only time I don't start them is when I'm out of bandwidth, and I always let them know. I see nothing wrong with what i'm doing.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: allenx1966 on July 05, 2011, 12:50:23 am
 to GS
There are some pretty safe ones I agree but limewire is not one of those.
[/quote]

 Have you used the new pirate version I spoke of?
Bottom line, LW is working, Winmx is not. Your principals of file sharing and morals are great, until it hits your own back yard. Anyone that believes in total freedom of information and file sharing, should NOT have any problem with anyone sharing info. I never once claimed that LW was without risk. The difference is,Winmx has no risk at the moment, cause it doesn't work! Your philosophy is like a car with no motor on bricks in the back yard, but you claim to have a better safety record than my car that gets driven everyday.
   The Metallica ref is relevant. Lars loved the free spirited rebel side of the band and was not about making money, then he got taken in by the love of money, turned on file sharers with a rebel attitude. You love the right to share and exchange ideas, until it is something that goes against what YOU believe, then its "how dare you" .   Its the same attitude that caused at least 2/3's of Metallica fans to lose respect and love of the band.
   Wanting to shut me up, a long time supporter of WINMX, goes against everything WINMX stands for to begin with.
 Bash me again, I don't mind, enough people here understand where I am coming from. Just please do me one simple favor, before you trash LW anymore, be sure to answer the question "have you used the 5.6.2 pirate version yet?" . If you try it with peerblock, and your pride gets out of the way, you will see and understand my willingness to share the info on this forum.
  I don't know who is working on what, to fix winmx, but the best way to get this forum back on track is to get it fixed and working, bottom line. Arguing with me about other clients is doing nothing to fix winmx. I don't wish for winmx to be over, but i see no indication that any real progress is being made.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 05, 2011, 03:51:13 am
We need more coders with expertise in needed areas to accomplish our goal. I think we should try to remain constructive in our post or not say anything at all. That goes for everyone including myself.  If you can't code like myself then I guess the best thing to do  is just keep an eye out for coders that may be interested in such a task.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: allenx1966 on July 05, 2011, 06:03:11 am
I still see nothing wrong with sharing ideas and info on a forum that was created to protect the right to share. It makes me feel like being a retard sent into a round room and told to hide in the corner.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: reef on July 05, 2011, 06:59:55 am
I still see nothing wrong with sharing ideas and info on a forum that was created to protect the right to share. It makes me feel like being a retard sent into a round room and told to hide in the corner.

Nobody is trying to make you feel that way allen lol. Some folks are ready to throw in the towel, some already have, but most of us are trying to adapt and use winmx whichever way we can.Recently i've seen users say their transfers and queues are even higher than before the attacks, sure it's a pain in the ass for the time being, but staying positive and awaiting a fix is all we can really do at this time. Many are frustrated,angry and upset,but this community is a lot stronger than given credit for and people are holding on and adapting. I think what upsets ghost is that people (everybody with a passion for winmx) are fighting to hold this network together, and it would be easy to ditch ole winmx and find something else, but wouldn't that mean the attackers have accomplished what they set out to do? When the going gets tough the tough get going, and that doesnt mean by throwing in the towel and giving up something that we all love to use and find so much enjoyment in. People are fragile at this moment and awaiting something great to happen and i think many of us believe it will happen, it's just a matter of time. Thats why it's called winmxworld, and not p2p world or torrent world or limewire world, we're all here to support winmx. Never give up :)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/reef6969/never.jpg)

Toad is still fighting  :lol: :canadian:
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 05, 2011, 09:03:47 am
@gs; ill take it that one-liner finally ment you caught the reference... stubborn old goat :P

@allenx; lot of pride on this forum, like reef said they dont want the attackers to win so the 'L' word and the 'T' word are bad words here... odd i know....

@achilles; i was referring to the traders that must have a download running from the person they are uploading to and cut off the download if the upload gets there sooner.... its built into mxmoni to do that.... what you describe is just starting a friend... not the typical winmx 'trade' .... or even trading in general for that matter...

@reef; hate to say it but count me in as one of those who've fully thrown in the towel... uninstalled mx and deleted about 400mb of incomplete files that werent going anywhere (no sources)... id rather a search function that worked (even if its not mx) than to play 'custers last stand' with some disgruntled attackers....

@gs again; you mentioned p2p that you would consider safe but mentioned no names.... considering the exodus will continue regardless of the wishes of the 'hardcore' users would... you be willing to list those p2p for those who do wish to leave but you would rather be safe? (the 'L' word and 'T' word cause you to get upset but ive mentioned ares soulseek and opennap several times here without causing too much of a stirr...)

@all readers; i cant help but wonder what the folks in the land of the rising sun (which at least at one point made up roughly 60% of the userbase of mx) think of all this... (on one forum at least there are japanese mx users looking into ... er... the 'T' word...)
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: DaBees-Knees on July 05, 2011, 08:28:06 pm
Stripes,
            If my memory serves me right it was KMs insisting that the attacks were to help our Japanese users that started all this. Strange how it seems to have strayed away from that aim now, but as the current attackers don't have the guts to honestly state what their aim is we can only assume they enjoy seeing winmx users struggle and that's the satisfaction that they get from what they are doing. ....... Sad isn't it.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 06, 2011, 06:10:13 am
I don't remember Japanese users launching an attack like this.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 06, 2011, 09:32:37 am
they didnt... they are just chess pieces in this 'game' like the rest of those still on the wpn network...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: silicon_toad2000 on July 06, 2011, 11:21:46 am
I think they're in the same boat as the rest of us, caught up in these attacks.

Many nationalities are represented on winmx.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 06, 2011, 08:42:43 pm
There is no game, there are no players, there are simply cowardly attackers and the general community, I for one resent the implication anyone outside of the attackers cronies has any control or influence over the actions of these criminals, by peddling that falsehood you simply aid in dividing the community, is this your aim ?
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 06, 2011, 10:38:21 pm
divide? no... just would rather them be someplace safe... you've said over and over again that winmx is safe... tell that to the chat server hosts... esp the ones who lost their hosting services or got 'nastygrams' in the mail (be it paper mail or electronic mail)....

the 'community' moving as a whole someplace else would be the most desirable outcome...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 07, 2011, 03:32:36 am
divide? no... just would rather them be someplace safe... you've said over and over again that winmx is safe... tell that to the chat server hosts... esp the ones who lost their hosting services or got 'nastygrams' in the mail (be it paper mail or electronic mail)....

the 'community' moving as a whole someplace else would be the most desirable outcome...


Sorry gs you and i have been friends for years but this time i have to say i'm done my bandwith has been maxed out to the point i am going to end up spending money i just cant afford to spend it's either eat or mx and i choose to eat. my room is offline and will stay that way until we have a plan to attack back or fold either way. Stripes I'm with you. Right now we need a safe haven and we need it fast before we end up losing what little mx we have left, if we can find neutral ground to gather at to stay together at least when she is back up and running we can come back home. Until then we have no other choice. there isnt much left to do and I for one am not going to sit around and get a nasty anything from anyone because of some childish nonsence yet again.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 07, 2011, 03:38:03 am
So are you only here Stripes to convince everyone to move on to something else now? I mean.. you said you don't even use WinMx anymore.  Do you not ever plan on using WinMx again even if it's fixed? It sounds like you have gave up all hope, and don't believe WinMx will ever be fixed. In reading your last few post it sounds as though you want to convince everyone to stop using WinMx now.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 07, 2011, 03:59:59 am
So are you only here Stripes to convince everyone to move on to something else now? I mean.. you said you don't even use WinMx anymore.  Do you not ever plan on using WinMx again even if it's fixed? It sounds like you have gave up all hope, and don't believe WinMx will ever be fixed. In reading your last few post it sounds as though you want to convince everyone to stop using WinMx now.


@achillies have you seen what's going on? i've lost not one server 2 mine and my sons one in nj one in texas, my sons blew up cause of the high traffic it took out his router as well, it nearly took out mine, 2 i run a 10 meg connection that was nearly maxed out, i cant search i cant speak i cant even go on the network without being hit and you want me to sit and do what? let them attack me while i wait for my home to be fixed? Sorry i'm not putting myself in any position after what i know is going on and who started it. There's a lot more alot LOT more going on that no one but gs myself and stripes know of and km himself and i for one have one thing to say i need a message brought to km himself. will he stop this garbage if i leave for good, the deal is i go if he stops and i dont just mean the attacks i mean all of it, the attacks on innocent people the thrashing of ip's of people not involved. The network taking the attack for no reason. Will it stop if its yes i'm gone if not i'll be on the side lines with stripe trying to figure out what we can use to keep what little of mx is left together so when she is fixed we can come back home.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on July 07, 2011, 04:22:45 am
So are you only here Stripes to convince everyone to move on to something else now? I mean.. you said you don't even use WinMx anymore.  Do you not ever plan on using WinMx again even if it's fixed? It sounds like you have gave up all hope, and don't believe WinMx will ever be fixed. In reading your last few post it sounds as though you want to convince everyone to stop using WinMx now.


@achillies have you seen what's going on? i've lost not one server 2 mine and my sons one in nj one in texas, my sons blew up cause of the high traffic it took out his router as well, it nearly took out mine, 2 i run a 10 meg connection that was nearly maxed out, i cant search i cant speak i cant even go on the network without being hit and you want me to sit and do what? let them attack me while i wait for my home to be fixed? Sorry i'm not putting myself in any position after what i know is going on and who started it. There's a lot more alot LOT more going on that no one but gs myself and stripes know of and km himself and i for one have one thing to say i need a message brought to km himself. will he stop this garbage if i leave for good, the deal is i go if he stops and i dont just mean the attacks i mean all of it, the attacks on innocent people the thrashing of ip's of people not involved. The network taking the attack for no reason. Will it stop if its yes i'm gone if not i'll be on the side lines with stripe trying to figure out what we can use to keep what little of mx is left together so when she is fixed we can come back home.
Myabe I don't know as much as you do about what is going on. I'm not sure what you know. The search function does not work for me, and WinMx is really useless to me as I have already stated many times lately in other post here. I just run WinMx to try to keep the network going until a fix is found.  I have a large amount of bandwidth with my ISP, and I have been able to minimize the damage. I do not run a chat server though. Are you able to run the client without running a chat room? I use filtering methods that have been able to slow the attackers down quite a bit from exploiting my machines. The problem is that it requires frequent blocklist updates which the average user would not be capable of doing. I'm using an enterprise firewall also that can handle the high bandwidth.  Like i have been saying I only run WinMx to keep the network going. If your hardware can't handle it or you are in fear of receiving bad letters then by all means stop using it.  I still don't understand all the post here urging other users to stop using WinMx.  If they are running a chat server then they should already understand the risk since the average user probably does not even know how to run a chat server. I would think those users know more about WinMx than the average WinMx user.  Stripes said it would be best if the entire community just moved somewhere else. That was the reason for my question to Stripes. I am not trying to speak disrespectfully toward Stripes. Its only a question. I see so many mixed messages on the forum lately.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: reef on July 07, 2011, 06:18:45 am
Your efforts are greatly appreciated by many achilles. It's users such as yourself that are the true hero's on winmx at this time and forever after. Thats all that can be done at this time by most of us, is to hang tough and do whatever we can to keep it afloat. There are many that will continue doing as you are and not give in, thats what makes this community so strong. We all understand and sympathize with folks such as SELENA, who just can't carry on due to bandwidth caps etc, but the rest of us will continue on keeping it alive until a fix is delivered. and save their seats for when they're able to return. It really is hard to keep a positive attitude at times during all of this, but every now and then somebody shows what makes winmx so great. Thanks for the smile achilles, although i know thats not what the intention of your post was for lol :)
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 07, 2011, 08:52:28 am
For the record I would like to make clear that wmw did urge many of the community to sit this out on open-nap and run rooms in the offline mode as a temporary measure, having delivered this best advice many have chosen to tough it out here and have had their bandwidth stolen by the criminals attacking the network, it was made clear some time ago now that a fix for this is not trivial but is possible, whats being asked of the programmer is something no one before has attempted and will change the network so attacks such as those we are seeing will no longer be possible, this is our focus as I know it encapsulates the hopes and dreams of you all, let us not let anyone divide us, whatever our current means lets pull together to cut down the resources available to the attacker, we the users run this network not the non-winmx using attackers who simply come here to smash friendships and exercise abuses of power over the userbase who have trusted their fellow users successfully for many years now to steer you all to safety when trouble has arisen, the hope of wmw and its community partners rests on delivering a fix and deploying it, that's all we can do, please follow our suggestions and keep chat rooms together or shared if possible to ensure the attackers do not win, we as a community cannot even think of allowing these ppl to succeed , walk tall folks and remember each of you represents the community to your fellows and they rely on you as much as you rely on them, if anyone needs specific help please post, we must continue to work together and as always with respect for each other when faced with such mindless censorship and abuse.

Stand firm even if its only in your hearts, the attackers can never steal our friendship and community, unless we let them.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 07, 2011, 11:36:15 am
So are you only here Stripes to convince everyone to move on to something else now? I mean.. you said you don't even use WinMx anymore.  Do you not ever plan on using WinMx again even if it's fixed? It sounds like you have gave up all hope, and don't believe WinMx will ever be fixed. In reading your last few post it sounds as though you want to convince everyone to stop using WinMx now.

i dont want folks to end up in deep doo doo shall we say with their isps due to traffic being redirected by the attackers...

last time i tried to use mx i ran a search since i saw searches werent being hijacked (the attacks were atm using the oversized malformed packets which causes extreme bandwidth waste for chatserver runners.... ....one of em soaked up ~500gb in a month to put that in perspective...) when i ran my test search the 'tx/rx' lights on my (dialup!) modem lit up like a christmas tree on crack and my connection was totally useless.... where was the traffic going? i didnt care to take the time to run tcpview to see.... i closed mx immediately and redialed (giving me a new ip address) ... i dont want my own nastygram... even if the traffic were just 'junk' not going anywhere i couldnt have used winmx (or the web browser or pidgin or irc .... ) at all anyway...

im not going to be one that stands in the line of fire on this...

the reason i uninstalled mx is due simply to it being an end of life program.... a potential security risk.... call me paranoid if you want on that one.... but robomx works much better for winmx chat (make sure not to connect to the wpn itself tho as robo will then be a target as well... theres a tickbox in its settings that says 'connect to wpn on startup'.... untick it...) use josh or stevi's web room list and copy/paste and join the room you want to chat in... for nap i find lopster to be vastly superior to winmx as it can multisource (!) on nap ... even if the download is from a non-lopster user.... it also knows that the same user can be on multiple servers (labels the connections 'clones') so someone added to the hotlist doesnt have to be on a specific server to show as online... note: learning curve for lopster is a bit steep and the ui on winlop is very fickle/buggy....


side note to the 'winmxgroup' nap runner possibly best left unidentified.... your server is either drastically overloaded or misconfigured as 'browse' and searches that return 'too many' results cause a disconnect.... (client used doesnt seem to matter on this issue) the problem is consistant... works each time browse is clicked...


as for the drastically complex patch to fix these issues... well.... see you next mxmas?
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 07, 2011, 02:19:50 pm
The issue is and this is to all were losing friends and there just dropping off we need to make sure we stay in touch with them like reef said my seat will be here when i get back but then i am always in touch what do we do with the ones who just disappear we need to have something to stay in touch with others who don't know about the forum, i'd go for email anything at this point to keep from losing others we have already with my 2 rooms plus maxtech's castle which i was hosting on mine, plus 4 rooms that were on my sons server gone now, i was also hosting lionesses room as well as spider's room. We desperately need a way to keep in touch with people so they know when exactly mx will be back, we have lost so many in the beginning that i have just found who are now totally refusing because of what is going on to even come back. The real question is now to stay in touch.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 07, 2011, 03:54:37 pm
something hopefully better than msn.... all the gmail users already have xmpp accounts (google talk... which works fine with pidgin and integrates perfectly with other xmpp services) ... least thats one idea...

chat on the (hopefully soon to be fixed) nap server? (nap works with mx and other nap clients)

irc?

agree to something of neutral territory and spread the word to add it to the motd of the channels that still work... (my vote is on xmpp cos you dont need gtalk to use an xmpp service... see jabber.org )
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 07, 2011, 09:12:58 pm
what ever we can do to keep each other together is alright with me as long as everyone sticks together or at least is within touch with each other. we all know it's going to take awhile to get mx fixed and everyone enjoys the chat most of all, so if we can find that neutral ground to keep in touch it will make the waiting game less and less, like they say if you have friends around the time goes by faster
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 07, 2011, 11:56:56 pm
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they say if you have friends around the time goes by faster

if you happen have your old friend jose cuervo over as well whole chunks in time seem to come up missing ;)


its possible that ppl have ppl on im and other networks that are unknown to the 'whole' and when (if?) mx is fixed word would be passed around... ...its if mx isnt fixed that youve lost the 'group' of chatters so... um... yeah... im out of ideas on that one...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 08, 2011, 03:54:03 am
Don't lose faith on me now Stripes she was fixed once by a good team and some of that team is still around minus a few bad apples. Don't go losing the faith just yet to many are counting and backing mx and it's team to let her fall. Even myself just because i'm not on the network doesn't mean i dont care. Like i once said years ago to gs the needs of the many outway the needs of the one. I'd give up my mx life if km and nb would back off. Course I would miss everyone very much but if that's what it takes then i'd do it. Mx will forever be my home no matter what. Just keep the faith stripes she'll be back stronger than ever.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 08, 2011, 03:59:27 am
it's not bandwith caps reef old friend remember i used to be on dialup i'm now on a 10 meg connection, it's the fact i'm hearing thousands of people being attacked and we need a safe house for them and fast, I dont mean lets all abandon our home not at all, but we need to take the innocent people who are caught once again in this war and move them out of the line of fire, this is getting messy and fast computers are being destroyed threats are being slung we need an alternate plan and fast one that will keep our friends and family safe. we need a suggestion at this time while what little coders we have (that we hold dearly right now) can do there work without worring about who is being attacked. i'll take any suggestions at hand to move the innocent people for now temp to a safe haven. And i need to know if km and nb are continuing to hit the network.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 08, 2011, 04:00:53 am
ooh and reef thanks for the great program used it a few times saw your name on it and smiled glad to see your still here with us.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: silicon_toad2000 on July 08, 2011, 05:39:56 am
Suggestions that have been thrown forward I think include running rooms in offline mode and also using opennap.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Lagerlout666 on July 08, 2011, 09:27:08 pm
the nap server results should be fixed. missed this report. merci.

Also if someone wants a room setting up on the nap server to migrate too im willing to set one up for you and you can relocate till winmx is sorted.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 12, 2011, 08:05:40 pm
the nap server results should be fixed. missed this report. merci.

Also if someone wants a room setting up on the nap server to migrate too i'm willing to set one up for you and you can relocate till winmx is sorted.

Lager how safe is the open nap now a days? I was running in offline mode when i was hit same for my son. I am hoping open nap will be better. let me know please itchy to stay on mx i'll take any way back in that's a safe hidden way.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Bieb on July 12, 2011, 10:21:31 pm
The major downside to open nap would be the fact that everything is run off a central server. So if it goes down, everything goes down. But I'm sure lagerlout has it on a vps or a dedicated server so it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 12, 2011, 11:59:03 pm
A better description of the network topography would be to describe the Open-Nap Network as a collection of central servers not a singular one as some may make the mistake of thinking after reading your comment Josh, in WinMX users terms they could be described as "super primarys" as they can handle a lot more users than the standard winmx primary client does but of course the flip side is as Josh pointed out in that because they do carry so much traffic they are best operated from non home connections or alternatively the settings tweaked to drop the connection levels quite considerably to allow them to be run as a temporary network back-bone, each room host could in fact transfer their whole room and its users over to open nap and link with other servers for things like channel lists and files searching  so its not that much different to our beloved WPN,  what is different however is the level of security, its not anywhere near as tight as folks want but for a temporary measure it will allow the WPN community to hold their ground until the main wpn network can be taken back from the parasites who disrupt friendships ,drive users away and in true cowardly fashion refuse to identify themselves out of fear of physical retribution and possible prison time for their illegal and despicable acts.

Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 13, 2011, 12:54:56 am
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so its not that much different to our beloved WPN,

wpn was based on nap...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 14, 2011, 05:24:16 am
have to honestly say... there are p2p out there that can replace mx for me... the thing that holds me to mx is the 'tinker' factor... like that old car that mostly sits in the garage and only gets driven once in a blue moon but gets its engine tinkered with quite often...

not practical, not efficient, not even that pleasant to drive... but an interesting toy nonetheless....

your such a fibber you come there cause i am there and gs lol
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 14, 2011, 05:28:01 am
Honestly I have to be blunt I havent downloaded anything but true blood first 3 of the new season since i cant be on mx, i want the security and my family back so i'll sit and be patient and wait until she is fixed, do we have a eta aprox on her being somewhat ready?
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: silicon_toad2000 on July 14, 2011, 07:44:59 am
No firm ETA. From what I understand the final few features/bits of the patch are proving elusive.

I know in the last week another set of hands has joined the effort to see if they can help, or at least cast a fresh set of eyes over the problem.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on July 14, 2011, 10:03:59 pm
have to honestly say... there are p2p out there that can replace mx for me... the thing that holds me to mx is the 'tinker' factor... like that old car that mostly sits in the garage and only gets driven once in a blue moon but gets its engine tinkered with quite often...

not practical, not efficient, not even that pleasant to drive... but an interesting toy nonetheless....

your such a fibber you come there cause i am there and gs lol

at this point im sticking around (the forum) to see if and how well the new patch can be pulled off....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 22, 2011, 02:51:28 am
Yeah lets learn about torrents, it' s system where your IP address is automatically logged by unscrupulous companies that specialise in shaking down file sharers, at least 50,000 +folks last year in the US alone got legal threats using torrent clients and zero using winmx I wonder why anyone uses Torrents when the chances of paying 1-3000 dollars is so much higher.

I know you may not be aware of this Allenx but this site is not a place to advertise Bit torrent, its a WinMX support site if you wish to leave the community then thats your choice but please stop trying to use our resources to suggest others should.


i agree with gs torrents are bad for those who dont know what there doing, torrent sites grab your ip and your isp can grab you too, best leave torrents to the pirates who know what to look for and what not to look for, personally i'm playing the wait game and playing facebook games and mmrpg games until i hear the green light or see rather.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: ~*~SELENA~*~ on July 22, 2011, 02:52:43 am
have to honestly say... there are p2p out there that can replace mx for me... the thing that holds me to mx is the 'tinker' factor... like that old car that mostly sits in the garage and only gets driven once in a blue moon but gets its engine tinkered with quite often...

not practical, not efficient, not even that pleasant to drive... but an interesting toy nonetheless....

your such a fibber you come there cause i am there and gs lol

at this point im sticking around (the forum) to see if and how well the new patch can be pulled off....

well you have my email if something pop's up shout at me i'm just hanging around so to speak watching waiting and getting in some game time which is more than i used to anyway. I'm still here though if you want to gab about anything, hi blue!!!!!
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: R on July 28, 2011, 08:22:58 pm
So, after all the hyperbole and minutae it basically comes down to this:

"No one has a solution for the multiple problems with WinMX!"

 That could have been clearly stated four pages ago - sarcasm intended! I had not used  MX for 6 months and found things have gone from bad to worse -  with users debating side issues instead of focusing on the main point - HOW TO FIX MX!! What a waste of effort. :what:

I came here looking for solutions as I once used MX constantly, too bad none are to be found. Keep up the useless debate, I'll check back in another 6 IF MX is still functional at some level. :hrmm:
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on July 29, 2011, 01:41:36 am
Another back seat driver in the house  :/

R you come here to down talk fellow WinMX users based on nothing but your own ignorance, its people like yourself that perhaps should not bother coming back as you offer no words of help, support or encouragement but instead seem to focus purely on your negative agenda and selfish wants.
Do you really believe your the only person taking a beating in all the carnage ?  of course you dont, but then as you say you havent been around to stand firm and united against the attackers instead your sum input on all this is sarcasm and selfishness.

Understand one thing at least, we have worked out quite a few solutions at this point that does not however mean there are coders a plenty to implement them nor time enough to get a major fix built that will change how much of the primary network operates, now your a little better informed I hope you dont further proceed to waste anyones time again with such self centered nonsense.

Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 21, 2011, 04:57:50 pm
So the last few days I've been making adjustments to both the winMX .exe  and to the patch. I've had some interesting results! As of right now I am not sure if its my own tinkering or if something has changed, but the last 2 days of connecting as a secondary has been flawless search results. The list of results has varied in size, I assume thats due to the amount of users and cluster connected to at the moment.
 Is anyone else having luck?
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 21, 2011, 11:44:25 pm
I find it flippin amazing that not one other member here wants to know how I have achieved these results! Not one PM, not even a smart ass stupid comment.....
Maybe this isnt the right place for me, or my findings of lists of IP's in the TCP packets or how I have modified a filtering script to add to the .exe. Maybe I need to take it somewhere else.

 :/
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: achilles on August 22, 2011, 12:11:42 am
I've been at work all day so please PM me, and I will see if I can achieve the same results as you. No one else has offered any assistance that has worked so i'm willing to give it a shot.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on August 22, 2011, 12:30:53 am
lemme guess... since you said you are doing this as secondary and not primary you are simply dropping the returned string search results that dont match what you searched for.... leaving the primary connect to do most of the work....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: GhostShip on August 22, 2011, 03:18:45 am
I dont find it amazing that no one wishes to waste time to pour water on something most of us know is not a real fix, I do understand why you may hope it is but honestly what your doing is not fixing anything and will as Stripes points out simply create more traffic for any primary passing your traffic.

My apologies for being so blunt here but theres little point in telling you lies, should you need some real files please follow our advice to temporarily use open nap and take a break from the current annoyance, I know your hearts in the right place but honestly no one can win this one without some serious protocol level changes that continue to  be worked on, no one here has given up hope nor will we.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 23, 2011, 12:17:32 am
lemme guess... since you said you are doing this as secondary and not primary you are simply dropping the returned string search results that dont match what you searched for.... leaving the primary connect to do most of the work....
Yes the primary is still left with all the crap coming in.....Crap.....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on August 23, 2011, 09:59:18 am
lemme guess... since you said you are doing this as secondary and not primary you are simply dropping the returned string search results that dont match what you searched for.... leaving the primary connect to do most of the work....
Yes the primary is still left with all the crap coming in.....Crap.....

look at the other port mx uses.... if you can pull off that filter for not just your searches but the others connected to you as well ... then youll really be on to something....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 23, 2011, 08:41:30 pm
I dont find it amazing that no one wishes to waste time to pour water on something most of us know is not a real fix, I do understand why you may hope it is but honestly what your doing is not fixing anything and will as Stripes points out simply create more traffic for any primary passing your traffic.

My apologies for being so blunt here but theres little point in telling you lies, should you need some real files please follow our advice to temporarily use open nap and take a break from the current annoyance, I know your hearts in the right place but honestly no one can win this one without some serious protocol level changes that continue to  be worked on, no one here has given up hope nor will we.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 23, 2011, 09:05:34 pm
I'm not doing this so my winMX works again because I have some great need for files......I got and get and give files when ever I need....
Let me remind all of you thaartest t ......I.......was working on this client long before winMX world existed. I find that some of the smartest MX heads reside here,
and now that there is a problem, I am also here spending my free time developing "A new fix".  Just so you know GS, I'm not just another duch bag pouring water over whatever, and if maybe I had some insite as to what others have already tried, I would not be spending evening after evening putzing with script that others have already tried.


look at the other port mx uses.... if you can pull off that filter for not just your searches but the others connected to you as well ... then youll really be on to something....

I would have to build a " Primary mode"l in order to see if I could make that work SS. I dont have the bandwith to support a primary connection, and mine is shared currently. But I do have a few extra PCs I could run as a VPN and test it out that way.
I will let you know what I come up with.
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Bluey_412 on August 23, 2011, 09:05:44 pm
even so, I for one will stick around, and if the methods CE uses work, then so be it, but my Primary is still here too
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Bluey_412 on August 23, 2011, 09:07:07 pm
and Kudos to CE for trying stuff...
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 23, 2011, 10:05:57 pm
and Kudos to CE for trying stuff...
Thats encouraging Bluey, Thanks. It's the people out there like you that love this network that keeps me searching for the answers.
Keep your fingers crossed, I got some new ideas thanks to silver stripes.
I am reminded of the movie bio dome, Stephen Baldwin plays " Doyle" who makes a song about "Makin A filter!"
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Einsteinus on August 25, 2011, 03:41:54 pm
For some reason the fog is starting to lift :thumbs:
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: Einsteinus on August 25, 2011, 03:48:07 pm
For some reason the fog is starting to lift :thumbs:
And I think since no one has really come up with anything and Mr. Cutting edge is showing a real dedication to the cause that at least you guys make him Assistant Saviour!
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: White Stripes on August 25, 2011, 03:57:26 pm
the attacks ebb and flow.... network saturation may make it even seem as if they stopped when the primary nodes are passing 99% junk....
Title: Re: What's happen to WinMx
Post by: cuttingedge on August 25, 2011, 04:48:56 pm
And I think since no one has really come up with anything and Mr. Cutting edge is showing a real dedication to the cause that at least you guys make him Assistant Saviour!

Thanks but I've done nothing that benifets others yet. And I need no title cause when the problem is gone so am I.
I check in periodocly to say hi like years past LOL sometimes to fnd my account deleted...
I got a few days off work so I have been working on setting up my test structure. It's going good so far, and thats where I'm at.
I think our new member Hans is the guy to watch for exciting news. And what ever I come up with might only be a nice ad on.