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Discussion => WinMx World News => Topic started by: p2p rules on January 20, 2012, 06:55:35 pm

Title: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: p2p rules on January 20, 2012, 06:55:35 pm
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Just hours after Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) announced he was delaying a vote on the PROTECT IP Act, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), the sponsor of the Stop Online Piracy Act, followed suit and announced he would be delaying consideration of the companion legislation.

“I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy," Smith said. "It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products."

"The Committee will continue work with both copyright owners and Internet companies to develop proposals that combat online piracy and protect America’s intellectual property," Smith continued. "We welcome input from all organizations and individuals who have an honest difference of opinion about how best to address this widespread problem." (He may want to check out our thoughts on the matter.)

Even former Senator Chris Dodd, the head of the Motion Picture Association of America, seemed to concede defeat. "With today’s announcement, we hope the dynamics of the conversation can change and become a sincere discussion about how best to protect the millions of American jobs affected by the theft of American intellectual property," he said in a statement. "It is incumbent that they now sincerely work with all of us to achieve a meaningful solution to this critically important goal."

The ideas present in both SOPA and PIPA may return, but both bills in their present form—and with their present names—are probably done for good.

A key figure in the fight against SOPA was Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA). Issa had planned to use his perch as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to highlight the flaws of SOPA's DNS blocking provisions. He was planning to hold a hearing featuring the testimony of actual technical experts, something that had been mysteriously missing from Smith's hearings on the bill. Wednesday's Internet protests were originally scheduled to coincide with the hearings. But Issa scrapped his hearing after receiving assurances that the DNS provisions would be dropped from SOPA. The broader protest went forward anyway.

"Supporters of the Internet deserve credit for pressing advocates of SOPA and PIPA to back away from an effort to ram through controversial legislation," Issa said in a Friday statement. "Over the last two months, the intense popular effort to stop SOPA and PIPA has defeated an effort that once looked unstoppable."

"Postponing the Senate vote on PIPA removes the imminent threat to the Internet, but it's not over yet," Issa continued. "Copyright infringement remains a serious problem and any solution must be targeted, effective, and consistent with how the Internet works."
Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/internet-wins-sopa-and-pipa-both-shelved.ars)
At GOP debate, all four candidates oppose SOPA (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/at-gop-debate-all-four-candidates-oppose-sopa.ars)
Reid shelves PROTECT IP Act in response to "recent events" (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/reid-shelves-protect-ip-act-in-response-to-recent-events.ars)
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Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: White Stripes on January 20, 2012, 08:09:40 pm
/me isnt holding his breath...

'postponed' doesnt mean 'gone' ....

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"It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products."

inventions? what inventions?? did megaupload have the 'floorplans' (info and layout of inner workings) of the latest intel cpu on their servers?

as far as 'products' go i havent seen anything that hasnt said 'made in china' in... years... last thing i saw that said 'made in usa' was literally an antique...

wait... is he talking about the non-tangable objects like software video and audio? hah...

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...to protect the millions of American jobs affected by the theft of American intellectual property,...

ahhh ok.. so dodd cleared up what smith still doesnt know what hes talking about... but uh... what jobs? is the fast food industry, for example, not hiring as much due to russia 'stealing' the recipie of the egg mc muffin?

gah!!!! these ppl still have their heads so far up their asses they can lick the back of their own tounge....

...ok... sorta feel better now...
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Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: cuttingedge on January 20, 2012, 09:09:12 pm
I understand where the letter of the law is at but really? movies make a killing at box office, musicians, if they want to make a million need to do shows, and what else? Software? Ok, be a better programmer and write something that cant be hacked and stolen.....If they want more than that, it's greed.....I think some so called innovators out there are running out of new ideas! Well tough, nobody said it was gonna be easy.
Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: Bluey_412 on January 20, 2012, 10:54:48 pm
But Wait, There's More!

What percentage of movies are actually MADE in USA these days?

What percentage of software (any kind) is designed CODED and MADE in USA these days?
Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: White Stripes on January 20, 2012, 10:59:54 pm
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musicians, if they want to make a million need to do shows,

check out what the musicians over at jamendo.com are doing... long story short... the good ones.. do very well...

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Ok, be a better programmer and write something that cant be hacked and stolen.

theres two problems with pay-for software.... 1) open source 2) freeware .... when a payware package has 10+ different legally free 'competitors' they arent going to sell very well... especially if its competition is open source.... (guess thats what the win8 secureboot thing is about... ms still afraid of alternate osen so they lock the os to the hardware... cute...)

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I think some so called innovators out there are running out of new ideas!

the programmers that are innovators... are the ones left to do things on their own (justin frankel w/ winamp gnutella waste etc... is a good example) ... they dont work at aol or semantic or microsoft...  (nother example.. winamp was bought by aol... the innovators are gone and the program is slowly fading... VLC is the new 'winamp'.. and VLC is free..)
Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: White Stripes on January 20, 2012, 11:01:44 pm
But Wait, There's More!

What percentage of movies are actually MADE in USA these days?

What percentage of software (any kind) is designed CODED and MADE in USA these days?


interesting thought....wouldnt mind seeing those statistics myself...
Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: cuttingedge on January 26, 2012, 12:51:43 am
Just wanted to bump this back up, and let everyone know, I got letters back from the congressmen in my state  concerning "H.R.3261"!!!! Both members of congress from my state were not in favor before a vote was even close, due to the way the bill was written.
 If anyone cares to read them I will put them up word for word, just let me know.....
 :-D
Title: Re: Internet wins: SOPA and PIPA both shelved
Post by: White Stripes on January 26, 2012, 04:17:16 am
... ask em about hr.1981 -- mandatory 18 month data retention by isps of all financial transactions carried over them.. ..somehow its supposed to stop child porn.... but well all know how much the media mafia love kiddie porn....