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WinMX Help => Upload/Download Issues => Topic started by: Snaggle on December 21, 2006, 07:19:22 am

Title: All uploads time out
Post by: Snaggle on December 21, 2006, 07:19:22 am
I can download at great speeds any time of day but every upload connection times out. I'm using v3.54 with the DLL patch. I've checked and doubled checked my ports. They seem to be configured correctly. I mean, people can access my library and attempt to make connections. I would like to share my files but can't seem to find a fix. Any ideas?
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: KM on December 21, 2006, 08:23:50 am
that means inbound connections are blocked

firstly if you have a firewall check the connections are allowed in that (most firewalls will allow inbound connections if they allow outbound so probably not that, but always a good place to start)

secondly if you have a NAT router tripple check the ports are forwarded

thirdly check you don't have 2 NAT routers - many ISPs give users modems with built in NAT routers, then people go and but another NAT router and plug it in thinking they need one when they already have one (this is more common than you might think as many PC shops tell people they need to buy one to have 2 computers online and completely ignore the fact that they already have one and only need a hub/switch) - there are several ways the check but the simplest is to give us the make/model of the modem to see if it has a built in NAT router
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 05:26:25 am
Hi,

My connection at work, COVAD with a Linksys wireless router connected to the DSL modem, used to work flawlessly and I was able to upload up to 180 KBS, now, I have the same problem as the user originating this  thread.

BTW I hang out in 'the classical conection' chat, for those liking classical music.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 05:46:21 am
I'm connected as a primary, currently with P=5, S=0, 8033 spm

a Netopia 4622 T1 VPN Router with a Linksys WRT54G v2 Wireless router cpnnected to it and a DWL G650M Mimo wireless antena in a Toshiba Satellite A10 S100 Laptop (an oldie) running Win XP Pro with 1 gig RAM 
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 05:54:44 am
Also I cannot get the chat list, and cannot browse most of the users I try.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on December 24, 2006, 09:31:56 am
hi Richard,

The first thing to check it the rules in the Linksys.. Linksys is infamous for change the IP assigned to the machine you're on and this may have been whats happen to you.  In the rules under the Advanced settings just make sure your IP 192.168.1.101 for example matchs the IP you get when you do Start > Run >   cmd  click OK.  Then in the MSDos box type      ipconfig     and Enter.  Make sure this is matching.. if its not remake the rules with the correct IP and be sure to set up static IPs for your Network.

The next thing that comes to mind is that Modem may have reenabled the NAT.  When running with a Modem that allows NAT and a router  that is NAT .. one of them has to be set to allow the IP to passthrough.  Usually people disable the NAT in the modem, which ever you did to get it working recheck that.  Im not 100% sure your modem will need it but if its truly a VPN it prolly will.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 11:45:59 am
Thank you for the response, and the wink in your avatar.

The IP address is consistent, will chech about NAT
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 11:48:30 am
BTW, this is the work conection, my home one sucks as its capped by my ISP. I can do hanky panky there but at work is more difficult. My problem is with the work connectgion which was working so great.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on December 24, 2006, 12:11:53 pm
If all else fails Richard, Set up your WinMX to 'passive secondary mode'.. meaning Incoming TCP set to 'Unable..'  and In/Out UDP set the same.. restart as secondary.

This is not ideal but its one of my favorite features of WinMX allowing those that cant for what ever open ports and things.. still allow them to use WinMX quite well...

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: richardwagner on December 24, 2006, 11:36:06 pm
Thank you very much for your sugestion. I logg in as a primary ad set it to the highest use possible of bandwidth for network data to pass through as I have there larger bandwith (usually an effective 1.2 mbs up) but now seems not to be working and I don't want to mess with my employer's servers.

I noticed that when I went secondary I was aboe to get the chat room list and browse most users.

From home I use also Pando, may be winMx can use something similar as a plug in. Sometimes I get using it 'speeds' of 200KPS from home (apparently my ISP is not blocking these type of transfer yet). However, is not multipoint.

Most of the times the files I share are large, symphonies, operas, movies, et al.

I also use Skype, which uses  p2p, and from home, is almost unusable, just for chatting, but phone or the regular Skype and video, sucks.

Well, too much talking already.

I wish you a very happy Christmass annd Happy new year!! Thank you and the rest of this wonderful group for the great service, wish I was at your level of knowledge and contribute as much.
 
Thank you.

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: kevin520 on January 12, 2007, 12:03:32 am
no one can download off me they get timed out all the time can anybody help
http://:lol:
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Bearded Blunder on January 12, 2007, 02:27:31 am
that means inbound connections are blocked

firstly if you have a firewall check the connections are allowed in that (most firewalls will allow inbound connections if they allow outbound so probably not that, but always a good place to start)

secondly if you have a NAT router tripple check the ports are forwarded

thirdly check you don't have 2 NAT routers - many ISPs give users modems with built in NAT routers, then people go and but another NAT router and plug it in thinking they need one when they already have one (this is more common than you might think as many PC shops tell people they need to buy one to have 2 computers online and completely ignore the fact that they already have one and only need a hub/switch) - there are several ways the check but the simplest is to give us the make/model of the modem to see if it has a built in NAT router
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: slick5066 on January 17, 2007, 01:39:09 am
OK I'm new to this so can someone help me out?  I'm trying to send files from a CD to my library so I can share files.  That's it,  slick5066
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on January 17, 2007, 01:49:41 am
hi Slick5066

Yea we can help you there thats called 'ripping' files and there are many programs to do it with.. A good free one is located here along with the How To

Cdex Ripping Program (http://www.winmxworld.com/tutorials/cdex_ripping.html)

let us know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Victim on January 17, 2007, 01:52:10 am
To get songs from a cd on to your pc for listening you have to rip the cd on to your pc. To do this simply open windows media player and click the rip tab at the top. Insert the cd if you havent already done so and click rip. If windows media player doesent automatically start ripping the songs click rip. Once all of the songs have finished ripping then they should be saved in >My Documents>My Music>Folder.

The folder will be the name of the cd. Then simply open the folder and all of the songs should be there. Then simply enjoy the songs you have ripped.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Victim on January 17, 2007, 01:53:55 am
Then send the folder where the songs are placed or moved the songs to a folder which is being shared on winmx. Then refresh your files and you should be sharing them.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on January 17, 2007, 02:47:28 am
Just one reason that I don't usually recommend folks use Windows Media to rip files they intend to share.. Media player embeds personal information about the computer and there for user account that was used to rip the files.  Its not easy to spot but as I've said before if I can find it an expert can.  This makes it traceable to you or your Computer.

WinMX also wont share wma files, for this reason, by default (you have to manually 'make' WinMX see the file type).

So if your just going to listen to those files or save them as a back up for yourself that's fine.  If your planning on sharing them, I suggest another ripping program is best to use for that.

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: fish628 on January 20, 2007, 03:00:35 pm
If all else fails Richard, Set up your WinMX to 'passive secondary mode'.. meaning Incoming TCP set to 'Unable..'  and In/Out UDP set the same.. restart as secondary.

This is not ideal but its one of my favorite features of WinMX allowing those that cant for what ever open ports and things.. still allow them to use WinMX quite well...



does this mean that others would be able to upload with no time outs?

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on January 20, 2007, 03:37:50 pm
It means that most should be able to yes.. if your firewalls are set ok also..

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: an_e_nigma on January 25, 2007, 11:32:27 pm
4 days ago all uploads started timing out. Users can que up, but time out while trying to connect. My incoming is fine. I am running XP Pro SP2 and I have a Belkin Router...please advise
Peace and good Journey
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Bearded Blunder on January 26, 2007, 12:23:52 am
it's likely your internal ip changed, please double check your rules for portforwarding match your CURRENT IP address
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Katherine on February 08, 2007, 03:46:04 am
I'm having trouble with uploads timing out as well.  I don't want people to think I'm a leech.  I can download just fine, but no one can upload.   I have a cable modem, and the firewall is set to accept WinMx.  I can't do anything as primary though.  Using primary gets me no results, so I'm connected as secondary, and I get great results.  I'd love to be able to share, but they just keep timing out.  I know it's frustrating to those trying to download.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on February 08, 2007, 04:17:47 am
Kathrine can you tell us what firewall(s) your using and confirm that your Cable modem doesnt have NAT.

Confirm by doing this
Start > Run > type in           cmd
CLick OK
In the Black Dos Box type       ipconfig
Hit the Enter key.

Tell us the first three digits of your IP Address Listed there?

In Lu of being able to set up ports you can use WinMX by going to Incoming TCP in settings .. tick Unable
then look at In/Out UDP and do the same.. restart MX secondary and most folks should be able to upload until we can get your problems worked out.  (keep in mind that as we fix this those will need to be reset back to port 6699 and 6257 or your preferred ports later)

Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Bunny on February 08, 2007, 05:32:33 pm
Hello, Ineed some help please, I have netgear router, my server is AOL, im secondary connection, how do i fix this that most people i try to download from or visa versa its says, Both users firewalled.
Thankyou.
BTW im in Movies 4 Looneys
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Bunny on February 08, 2007, 05:33:19 pm
HMmmmmmm think i did that wrong sorryyyyyyyy
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: KM on February 08, 2007, 07:58:19 pm
That's because you have your winmx set in passive mode, to fix it forward the ports in your router and of course set winmx to listen on them.

Go to www.portforward.com and look up the model of your netgear router for instructions.  Where it goes to settings and asks which ports are set, put in the ports for winmx to use (pick any numbers between 1 and 65535) as yours is currently set to not use any. Then follow the rest of the instructions for forwarding them.

although normally the both users firewalled message shouldn't happen too much, as it will only happen if both users are set as unable to accept connections, and most users are set to listening.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: halli714 on May 03, 2007, 03:13:15 am
I'm new here.  Could someone tell me what it means when the downloads turn red.
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: SamSeeSam on May 03, 2007, 04:40:30 am
Downlaod turning red is quite normal if say 1 in 10 or 20 go red. but if all or most go red, then it's not a good sign.

A download turning red is usually because:

The user went offline
The user could not be contacted
The user mas moved or changed the file location while you were in queue
The user has cancelled you (this happens rarely, about 1 in a hundred cases for me)
There was a file error

Most of the times, these are the causes, See if your problem fits into any of these. IF all your downloads timeout, then it's mostly a problem of ports or your ISP

Cheers :P
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Me Here on May 03, 2007, 12:29:05 pm
Its a good idea to have the little [ + ] signs beside your downloads set to be [ - ] instead so that you can see the error messages (reasons files stop of turn red) this way you can find out if its you or the user your getting them from.   A full list of the messages you may see can be found here

http://www.winmxworld.com/tutorials/transfer_screen_messages.html
Title: Re: All uploads time out
Post by: Bearded Blunder on May 03, 2007, 01:58:01 pm
You missed off "Both users firewalled (red)" from that tutorial which unlike what it SAYS means neither you or the other person has ports open in winmx or forwarded through any routers involved....

there are also some more unusual messages which perhaps deserve a page of theiir own ie a link from that one..

"File error (nn)"  which have various causes according to the specific problem..