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Rob

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Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« on: May 11, 2009, 10:52:21 am »
Hi Everyone,

I got a FiberPower60 Cabel connection, this means uploads and downloads with huge speeds.
Since about 5 days now the speeds on WinMx have dropped dramatically, I tested my connections but everything seems ok, only WinMx is terrebly slow all of a sudden.
I use WinMx v3.54 with the latest Eagle patch on Windows XP Service pack3.
Could it be there are problems at the moment with the WinMx connections?

Help is much appriciated.

Kind regards,

Rob

Offline Savage Blades

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 11:37:09 am »
Hi Rob :)
Well ...
1. Are you running any other software that could be using available bandwidth ?
2. How long have you used winmx  ? The users getting files from you may not be able to take all you can give..
3. What happens if you progressively start multiple users in your upload queue.. for each new user you start ..there should be an increase in total upload bandwidth usage.
4. Have you checked 'Bandwidth Throttle' in winmx settings to see if upload has been limited ?
5. You could try changing the ports winmx uses.. for TCP & UDP say add a '5' to the front of current numbers but firewall and router may need to be adjusted also to allow change.
Hope this helps
Andy
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 12:28:56 pm »
Hi Andy,

Thanks very much for your quick reply.

1.  I am not using any other bandwith consuming software.
2.  I am using WinMx for about 8 years now.
3.  I allow 10 different uploaders at once, they all together can't reach more than a total upload speed of 25,000 B/s at the moment.     (Normally about 450,000 B/s)
4.  There are no 'Bandwidth Throttle' limitations.
5.  I tried your suggestion about cnanging port numbers, and made an adjustment in my Router, but this doesn't have any effect on the speed.

I'm afraid we have a unsolvable problem, maybe the problem dissapears one of these days as suddenly as it came, the strange thing is I have done no new installations or made changes in my PC.

I hope, especially for the uploaders of all my TV Series Pilots, period 1948-1989, that all will be good again, till then, sorry for the slow speed.

By Andy  :walk:

Rob

Offline Savage Blades

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 02:13:19 pm »
cool a longtime user ..
so I am confident you know about Bandwidth throttle  settings in winmx then ;)
that is a devastating drop.. 450k down to 25k :(
port changes wont take full effect until winmx is closed and re-opened,
not sure if you already know this. ?
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 04:01:45 pm »
 :yes:

I am indeed a long time user, I have tried all I could think of, I have as last step, completely removed WinMx and re-istalled it.

Also re-installed MXMonitor.

Re configerd my Firewall and Router.

I wonder if your ISP can take very specific measures if they see your uploading almost day and night with a specific program, but that is searching too far maybe, because I don't have up and download limts.

I'm 10 minutes online now, but i don't see any traffic at all yes. :x

I guess I just have to wait patiencely :firefox:

Offline Forested665

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 07:53:15 pm »
They could very well be throttling the port.
Maybe change to one they expect traffic on like 20?
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 10:15:24 am »
 :)

Hi,

I have connected directly to my Modem, without using my Netgear Router.
The speed went up again, as usual.
The strange thing, Shareaza, Ares or Limewire don't have any problems with the Router.

Unfortunally I have to use the Router because of other computers in the house, so down goes the speed again on WinMx....

Any suggestions left?

Greetings,

Rob

Offline Savage Blades

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 12:19:03 pm »
yep :P another suggestion then
look into third party firmware for your router
DD-WRT http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/hardware.html
or try enabling DMZ for the pc ip that hosts winmx..
so have you only recently started using this router ??
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 02:45:37 pm »
Hi,

It's a Netgear WNR 3500 router, this one is not supported on that website.

I'm using it for some months now.

My English is reasonable but I don't know what this means "or try enabling DMZ for the pc ip that hosts winmx.."

Greetings,

Rob

Offline Savage Blades

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 02:52:19 pm »
DMZ is a setting in the router
please consult your manual or google router make model DMZ
should find a guide easy
however you said originally
Since about 5 days now the speeds on WinMx have dropped dramatically
yet been using router for months wonder what has changed
you could try reset the router to factory defaults
but then will need to re-do all settings :(
Cheers
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 10:19:32 am »
 :thumbs:

I've taken the following steps

Setup in the Router > Advanced > WAN Setup > (Activate) Default DMZ Server > (Fill in) IP 192.168.1.2

The speed starts to increase again, hope it will be back at normal in a short time :D

Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 11:30:52 am »
 :no:

Well, that didn't help eventually :/

Back at slow upload speed again.

The only thing I can think of is buying a new Router wich has NAT/DMZ Host Setup possibilities.


Greetings,

Rob :hrmm:

Offline Savage Blades

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 11:45:04 am »
hmmm ok
so did the speed go up to normal when you first tried DMZ ?
have you tried resetting router to default.. ?
is there an option to disable router firewall ?

"using router for months" wonder what has changed ?
It was giving full speed with winmx ?
did you do a firmware update ?
have you checked to see if one is available ?
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 07:52:44 pm »
 :no:

I've tried eveything now, even with a direct connection through my modem, not using the router, the speed stays dramaticly low, for up and downloads.

I am a rather experienced  PC user, buy I give up now.

Maybe one day the speed increases as suddenly as it went down.

Bye :walk:

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 11:28:41 pm »
From reading here it seems that your particular ISP does not throttle but they do shape traffic (meaning they slow it down) and they are connected to/partnered with a larger network that may hit your speeds without the knowledge of your ISP

http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/ISPs_that_are_bad_for_BT#Netherlands

Bad news all around I say.

Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 03:20:51 pm »
Bad news indeed.

The strange thing, when I perform speed tests, the average is 5 mbps down and 4 mbps up, wich is rather high, I think.

I will see if I can do anything with the link you sent, but this gets very technical and my English ain't that good.

Greetings from The Netherlands


Offline Forested665

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 11:57:06 pm »
have you ever heard of speed/Frame/Packet burst?
Its a technique used by ALOT of ISPs esp cable companies. When a connection is started its allowed (in america on average) 3-10 seconds of 800kbps or more download and then it gets throttled back to about 100-220kbps per connection. Its not alot of time but it definately puts a slam on speed tests and the ones that test for lengths of time give you averages so it looks level
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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 01:18:09 am »
I would say the first thing you should do is go to your isp's site and see what kind of fair use policy they have. They won't call it "Our Throttling and Packet Shaping Policy". See if they've changed it to only allowing so much bandwidth per month and how long they shape it after you've crossed that limit. It could be a rolling set of days meaning that if you hit your limit on the 25th it's shaped for a month or even just for a day which could explain the highs and lows in bandwidth now.

From reading here it seems that your particular ISP does not throttle but they do shape traffic (meaning they slow it down) and they are connected to/partnered with a larger network that may hit your speeds without the knowledge of your ISP

http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/ISPs_that_are_bad_for_BT#Netherlands

Bad news all around I say.

I would say likely Quicks is right on the money. :(
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Rob

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2009, 01:04:11 pm »
Hi Everyone,

My ISP has admitted, in press interviews, after a huge amount of complaints from their users in the month of May, that it is using traffic shaping.

This goes at the cost of usenet and P2P traffic and in advantage of surfing, online gaming, voip and MSN.

The reason wich is suspected for this behaviour is that they have introduced Fiber Power60 and 120 (mbps) and now come short of bandwith due to these high speed packages.

So now I got and pay extra for FiberPower 60 (60 mbps download/6mbps upload, with an actual upload speed on P2P of 0,30 mbps) makes you wanna cry, don't it.

And what to do about it, I really don't know, other ISP's have a maximum upload of 1 mbps.

Greetings from the Netherlands.

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Re: Dramatic Drop In Upload Speed
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2009, 05:36:56 pm »
If theyre shorting you on 30mbps why would they not short the 60 and 120? thats kind of dumb move for your isp to make since most people cant even utilize a 60mbps connection.
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