What ever Happened to The MXPIE conspiracy?

[Caba1ist]

HI, just wondering, what ever happened to Vladd's MxPie, you know the one that was going to take over the running of our Mx for us so we could follow the leader as the loyal stupid sheep they thought we were?

Dont klnow about sheep but my headbutt is as good as any Ram if he wants to try it?

MX FREE FOR EVER!!!!!

[..Ñøßߥ..]

Rather odd post, there is no take over, and there never was going to be, just some stupid comments made that give some users this impression.

As for "what ever happened to Vladd's MxPie" you could try www.mxpie.com to find out.

As for MX free forever, i agree totally, speculation about Vladd or Mxpie charging for a free and widely available peice of software were nothing more than idiotic rumours.

If your using Winmx, your patched with either method and connected, then i dont see why you would need to concern yourself with childish threats of violence, but im interested to know what your plan was, bring up the word Vladd on your monitor then headbutt your screen??

[GhostShip]

Nobby lets be honest to the folks here, there where many private conversations behind the public ones and when asked work together for an mx solution the pie team refused point blank and decided to attack the dll and its creator instead of working towards a solution, you can say what you like but vladds meeting notes show that the pie team assumed a position as the leaders of mx they had no right to assume.

I look forward to your reply.

[..Ñøßߥ..]

Bullshit Ghost, if you want the record straight, i shall set it:

I worked very hard to unite all those with a vested interest in working as a team to get winmx back up, you yourself witnessed the reaction i got from Sabre when i tried to play diplomat, after some thought though i think he saw just how big the picture was and we formed a large team called Pie. You yourself know very well it was never going to be possible to get Sabre and KM working together, i did try. You were in on the whole thing on ground level, as was Mehere, but it was clear you had different ideas on how things should be done, and thats fine, that was your choice, Mehere chose to turn her back on the team, you chose a slightly different approach and beganing writting flame posts and coming into channel to rant , although at this stage i was stilll confident you would get by this and continue to have a big input on the project i was wrong and some what dissapointed, you continued your various attacks, petitions and publically made your anti pie sentiment clear, at that point your access to Pie info was removed, YOU had sadly given me no choice.

As for Pie "taking over winmx" do you truely believe Pie has control of Winmx? If so, you have finally lost the plot, if not quit suggestion we have.

All we did was continue the work YOU were a part of, our aim to make a successfull patch and promote it to the users to get them reconnected, we have been pretty successful at that, and for Pie's success i make no apologies.

If you choose to quote vladds meeting notes, go right ahead, there is nothing in their to hide, after all Pie team released them, as we have nothing to hide, we are a large transparent team. Record of who is doing what for Pie team, contact details etc etc is all publically available, as are my personal email addy and yahoo.

As for your suggestion we "attacked" KM, thats also absolute rubbish, i have stated on more times that i care to mention the work KM has done almost single handedly is quite remarkable, and as i have also stated i have very successfully used his .dll and connected some users using it.

Now quit being a baby and accept there are 2 re-connection methods, 1 of which you have some say in, the other you have no say on, but that was YOUR choice. Its healthy there are 2 methods, a little competion never hurt anyone, and i doubt many of the users would prefer to have only 1 patch run by 1 team/person.

Ps. If your gonna quote the meeting notes, please dont waste my time and yours complaining about search and destroys, and or sheep this is very old ground more than covered in various other posts, although your facination with sheep has presented us with a mascot  

[guest]

this topic has already been argued about too much already

[GhostShip]

Nobby your "solution" nearly crippled the network last night and no doubt will be used as a weapon against ordinary users again, shame on you for worrying about your own ass when the network is under attack.

With "help" from the pie team we now have approximately 120,000 extra flooders on the network so folks please bear that in mind when you are getting fake results or suddenly drop off the network due to a massive attack on your IP, shame on the pie team for that also.

When they have finished their work for the RIAA we may have no network left I,m sorry to say folks, an outside enemy is defeatable but the cancer that is the pie team, could prove fatal to us all.

I urge user to take a look themselves at any of the pie members sites and see who is interested in protecting our network.

http://www.vladd44.com/mx/piepatch.php

http://www.mxpie.com/instructions.html

http://www.sam57.com/index2.htm

http://www.gemini777.net/

This is the one pie member I could find who actually seems to care for the network, Cheers Unique.

http://www.webfrik.com/modules.php?name=Veiledninger&pid=31


As you can see we do our best to protect all users here but without effort from those spreading the host files without protective measures being advised, I fear we will  be unable to restore a normal network for all users.

[..Ñøßߥ..]

So the issue with the .dll is our fault now?


And please dont forget, its the Riaa agents that are doing the flooding, NOT Pie team, and also please note again, i dont recall any of you bitching to Front code about this prior to shut down? Hmmm no i guess it just easy to blame Pie team for everything, very good Ghost keep on with the finger pointing, makes you look good.

[GhostShip]

As I pointed out to you on Vladds Nobby I did indeed ask folks to block the flooders including a massive post made in febuary, your memory is selectively lapsing it seems.

http://www.vladd44.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4153&start=0

The RIAA cannot flood the network without unprotected users to spread the fake listings, we both know that Nobby so stop pretending otherwise and helping more folks into flooding the network by ignorance.

The pie team are responsible for not protecting the network but feel its ok to hand out a patch that they know will allow disruption of the network, thats not a mystery to any of my readers here.

As regards your cheap shot about the dll patch I have spoken to a few technical folks and we all agree on the problem and the solution, thank you for your concern Nobby.
I have watched the pathetic attempts to con more people onto the host file flooder patch instead of working out what the problem was, luckily I have never taken that attitude even though many opportunities have been there for me to do so.

WinMx comes before mxpie and woe betide anyone who thinks differently.

[..Ñøßߥ..]

All mouth, i wont even respond to that with a post, so long as your happy Ghost, go with it, i thought you reallly cared, i was wrong, its a glory thing for you, good luck to ya, vladd was right all along...

[GhostShip]

I think the folks can see that anyone who mentions the pie patch damaging the network gets called names Nobby ( Pie team PR guy)

Vladd uses RoboMx to speak to folks but is in actual fact no longer a WinMX user, perhaps the reason why the network flooding is of no concern to him or yourself, hmm Nobby ?

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I would like to wish a Happy New Year to all WinMX users  

[p2p rules]

Happy New Year people!!

[GhostShip]

You too P2P. thank you for your great help this year with the many and varied help topics that we cover, without folks like yourself the site would be a hollow shell, have a great new years day and I hope an enjoyable new year ahead , Cheers P2P  

[..Ñøßߥ..]

Vladd uses RoboMx to speak to folks but is in actual fact no longer a WinMX user, perhaps the reason why the network flooding is of no concern to him or yourself, hmm Nobby ?

No concern? are you kidding me? Why do you insist on constantly making statements you know to be untrue? You know my personal position on this, and you know i have and continue to make efforts to find a solution suitable for Pie.

I will also re-state Pie doesnt flood, and other than the odd thread you so helpfully provided, i didnt see any sustained campaign to block prior to FC going down, i didnt see any ranting posts, and emails or msn convos with FC about the issue, yet just a few months later you see fit to pin the blame on Pie team, nice.

We are just going over old ground here, i posted in this thread to address the users question regarding conspiracy, u managed to turn it into another slanging match, i wish you a more positive 2006, btw, nice to see your name up in lights in the 2006 Calendar!   I'm sure you will get your own giggles upon the release of the mens calendar, i doubt i will get away without a suitable amount of abuse..... :roll:

[TheMacDaddy]

I will also re-state Pie doesnt flood, and other than the odd thread you so helpfully provided, i didnt see any sustained campaign to block prior to FC going down, i didnt see any ranting posts, and emails or msn convos with FC about the issue, yet just a few months later you see fit to pin the blame on Pie team, nice.

nobby you are right the pie patch does not flood but......
you as well as anyone who has a little bit of knowledge knows that the pie patch does not include anything that helps block the riaa and to me that seems to be what concerns ghostship as well as alot of other people.

now you keep on about no one be worried b4 when frontcode ran the servers and yes you are right not alot of people were to bothered except a few,but even you must know that the reason for this is when frontcode ran the servers there was also a hell of alot more people connected to winmx then we have now and this in its self was why even though the riaa flooded the network with it being stronger then it is now it could within limits cope with the flooding.

now the simple facts are if a person uses te pie patch to fix there winmx (which works well) then they are also allowing the riaa to flood though there fix as it includes nothing to block the riaa,and your answer to this is nothing,when people go for the pie patch none of you as far as i know recommend any programme to block the riaa and this as far as i am concerned is nothing but incompatent <----hope i spelt that right?

this is not only hurting the network which is under strength right now as everyone knows but is also a means to a end of winmx as we know it.

now i have no doubt you will have so answer to this to make the pie fix smell like roses,but to me its as simple as 1 2 3...

connect with the pie fix and dont run something like   PG2 the riaa will win and winmx will be dead

connect with the pie fix and be told about blocking the riaa with something like   PG2  and winmx has a fighting chance

and you can all dress it up anyway at all you wish if people who are looked to for answers dont start doing whats right for winmx then all this bitching and fighting will be worth jack s**t and in 12 months time we can all sit in our homes and say   "do you remember when we used to use winmx?   good prog that was,pity there was to much crap going on for people to sort things out!!!!!!!!

[GhostShip]

Thank you Mac for putting the matter across in a sensible fashion.

I agree with your conclusions and thats why I have been hard on folks who are taking part in the destruction.

Without an effort to fix the problem we will have no usable network.

[p2p rules]

Your welcome Ghostship!! Thank you too for the great
WinMX help site/forum & the help you gave to me.
You and Me Here and everyone else has done a great job with helping people reconnect to WinMX and/or other problems that they might have and creating   tutorials to help people..especially the PG2 & the Winmxworld blocklist tutorials that is helping people block the cartels from attacking WinMX.
It would be nice to see the MXPie team do the samething, maybe create their own MXPie blocklist to add to PG2 & create some tutorials on their site for it.

[chuck]

The users of Winmx have all the Pie info we need.
The Pie Patch does nothing to stop or try to stop the RIAA or anyone from flooding the network with fake files.

Are you now trying to say it does stop the fake files?

 The pie Team does not try to educate the users of mx on the use of a block list to stop the fake file flooding.

Are you now trying to say they do?

 There are two patches at this time widely used to connect to the Network.

One blockes fake file flooders and is up dated to keep up new ip's.

One does not.

Fake files are killing mx now so which patch would you use?


Dill patch = Blocks the fakes.

Pie patch = Does not.

Is it really that had to figure out which is helping and which is hurting MX?

[Zepposircarressith]

I just wanted to say i dont no much about patches but what i have noticed all this stuff thats going around it is up to the winmx user on what patch they gonna use....  we as in winmx must just try to stick together, there are two ways to connect and thats great some say dont use this patch and some say use that one but in the end where not going no where... i have read all of these messeages and im glad to see some people being nice and honest... without honest people then then who are we.... i like to say i use winmxworld patch because i choose to i was not forced too.. And eversince meeting u peeps u have been sraight up honest, and i thank u... i feel u all made great points in this debate, And i say to the pie team shame on you for not letting ur members know the dangers of what ur doing and not being more friendly to ur customers if u like that.. and pie patch does not pertect and the winmxworld site does SO TO FINISH IM ASKING WINMXWORLD AND OTHER USERS WHAT WOULD YOU PICK

[PA Farmer]

Read with interest the latest posts by Ghost Ship and all and hope the bickering ends and all can work together to make WinMx work better. Have been a WinMx user for a couple of years and it worked good until it went down in Sept. 05. Since then I have had a real problem to try to keep it going [mostly connection and downloading & uploading problems that seem to be ongoing but will keep on trying to resolve them and keep WinMx going.

[GhostShip]

Let me make it clear here once and for all my simple position :

The pie team are destroying the network rapidly by actively encouraging folks with unprotected clients to join the network

I have asked them to stop and offered help with reversing the trend

Vladd, Jim and Nobby dont want to take anyones advice, so for the stubborness of three folks you are all going to find the network in rapid decay.

If you have technical question please ask me.

If you want to ask the pie team why they do nothing after 3 months please ask them.

If you think you have a solution for them send it to the pie team or post it on Vladds site.

Those are the simple options and are the best advice I can offer until their current policy is dropped.
I will of course remind all users why they cannot get decent searches drop from rooms and lose folks from rooms they are hosting, all classic symptoms of host file users allowing the enemy to use them to attack us all.

Ok I hope that keeps it simple and clear, if they change their policy I will be the first to congratulate or help them as I have done previously, the network is more important than them or myself.