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Offline GhostShip

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Senator Shows His Netiquette
« on: July 06, 2006, 01:33:21 am »
I had thought this was a joke until I read exactly what Senator Stevens the "good friend" of the Cartels, had said in this interview.

http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499

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The Senate Commerce Committee deadlocked 11 to 11 on an amendment inserting some very basic net neutrality provisions into a moving telecommunications bill.  The provisions didn't prohibit an ISP from handling VOIP faster than emails, but would have made it illegal to handle its own VOIP packets faster than a competitor's.
Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) explained why he voted against the amendment and gave an amazing primer on how the internet works.

Heres the senators words, sounds a lot different to me than when the MPAA/RIAA "help" with his speeches  huh folks ?

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There's one company now you can sign up and you can get a movie delivered to your house daily by delivery service. Okay. And currently it comes to your house, it gets put in the mail box when you get home and you change your order but you pay for that, right.

But this service is now going to go through the internet* and what you do is you just go to a place on the internet and you order your movie and guess what you can order ten of them delivered to you and the delivery charge is free.
Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?

I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially.

So you want to talk about the consumer? Let's talk about you and me. We use this internet to communicate and we aren't using it for commercial purposes.
We aren't earning anything by going on that internet. Now I'm not saying you have to or you want to discrimnate against those people [¿]

The regulatory approach is wrong. Your approach is regulatory in the sense that it says "No one can charge anyone for massively invading this world of the internet". No, I'm not finished. I want people to understand my position, I'm not going to take a lot of time. [¿]

They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.
It's a series of tubes.
And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?
Do you know why?
Because they have to have theirs delivered immediately. They can't afford getting delayed by other people.

Now I think these people are arguing whether they should be able to dump all that stuff on the internet ought to consider if they should develop a system themselves.
Maybe there is a place for a commercial net but it's not using what consumers use every day.
It's not using the messaging service that is essential to small businesses, to our operation of families.

The whole concept is that we should not go into this until someone shows that there is something that has been done that really is a viloation of net neutraility that hits you and me.


I think we are all in trouble with this guy at the wheel of such a powerful commitee  :shock:

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Re: Senator Shows His Netiquette
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2006, 03:32:26 am »
* Bearded Blunder must be tired as he can't even translate that into English that makes sense.
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Offline SamSeeSam

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Re: Senator Shows His Netiquette
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2006, 05:38:43 am »
I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday.

An internet ???? :P What does he mean by that? Now a using dsl instead of cable, erm... is a bit bad, but still you can get the essence of what the person is saying... But 'send an internet' ..... Generally I never laugh or scorn at people for a trivial things like mixing up words which have sutle differences. But considering that he is a senator and that he has such an important job. This mixing this is too much, even for normal conservations.
Wonders if he knows what he just said.... or did he say it for the sake of it...

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Re: Senator Shows His Netiquette
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2006, 06:09:17 am »
Sad the amount of misinformation going on.... The government had a seperate 'internet' long before the world wide web...

In fact the idea of the internet was built ont he old arpanet that was designed by the government if I remember correctly...It was created as a way for the military installations to still communicate in the event that connection was lost between 2 of them, and would reroute itself to keep the connection...

This predates any existance of the www, and was not created as a result of the internet being 'over burdened by the people getting video' LMAO

That entire idea is ridiculous...So if I am getting a streaming video from a place, then everyone else has to wait to send an email til I am done?! Then why can I still check my email while it is running?

Someone like that is very open with their stupidity, and the sad thing is other decision makers are relying on this dipshit to decide on laws....

I think you are 100% correct GS.... We are in big trouble with someone like that in charge of anything...

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Re: Senator Shows His Netiquette
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2006, 08:32:10 am »
* Bearded Blunder must be tired as he can't even translate that into English that makes sense.

Im with you there, i read it twice, just sounds to me like some bumbling old fool who had a little too much champers at the old boys club b4 he gave that interview. As for him DLing movies or indeed anything else, i just have this mental image of the dear chap standing over his toaster trying to get it to "download",  "Martha dear, the damn toaster wont DL again, damn this internet, something must be done about this"

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 10:25:35 am »
Saw this on Slashdot the other day @ http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/07/03/0643238.shtml

I don't know what's worse really, that it's apparent he has absolutely no idea about the subject he's commenting on, or that he comes across as illiterate.  It reads as if a 12 year old wrote it (no offence meant to 12 year olds!).

I'll steal a quote from Slashdot here;

"The man is the President Pro Tempore. If the President, Vice President and Speaker of the House die... he becomes President of the United States."

Jeez, I mean it's funny, but then it just isn't.  :lol: :shock:

Sure hope this guy isn't a representative sample of 'the people in power' in general or we're all fucked.

Offline Skipper

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Re: Senator Shows His Netiquette
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 10:56:12 am »
These freely elected morons pray on peoples fears & technological ignorance to get their fascist controlling laws passed how do we as the electors choose these dim-witted electees to represent us, lmao(what a vicious circle of twisted control)

as for the www side of global sat com which the US gov has run since its inception in the mid 1940's there is no limit to the amount of data that can be passed from one source to another this is common knowledge if his Internet(I'm assuming an e-mail communica)was delayed maybe their ISP is the one they should be complaining too, perhaps their server is out-dated or perhaps they were using cellular Internet service(Sprint perhaps) as many gov officials & organization now do) this is one of those speeches that will be twisted to mean all sorts of trouble for the common user & blame will be made & fear will be beat into the public that perhaps now the Koreans(using them because of recent news as the example) can attack us & we might not be able to respond because some users are hogging all the internet with their file transfers, hahahehe

as you may or may not be aware Nasa runs the 18acre underground mainframe installation of servers at Fort Knox Kentucky that is known as global sat-com was primarily set up as a communication & defense network until the US gov cut funding to the CIA 18 billion dollars US was requested in the CIA's budget for their private propaganda war in Iran & denied the CIA & US Military fought back selling stock in their public platform www. bringing the web public this is all old news as many are aware the CIA raised more than their 18billion dollar budget the 1st yr alone with investors like William Shatner(captain Kirk) becoming billionaires virtually overnight with its success.  With the Internet forever expanding & new ISP's opening all the time & servers becoming more powerful everyday I can't see any truth to this idiots rhetoric other than a fault of their own or their chosen ISP but your points valid this turds words will be twisted repeatedly till this fascist gov gets what they want out of it, lmao


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