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« on: November 02, 2005, 04:56:47 am »
It seems that Sony has been abusing CD buyers and including a hidden program in that hides itself from windows and creates a backdoor for hackers to attack invisibly, all just from playing one of the companies CDs on your PC.  :evil:

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

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At that point I knew conclusively that the rootkit and its associated files were related to the First 4 Internet DRM software Sony ships on its CDs. Not happy having underhanded and sloppily written software on my system I looked for a way to uninstall it. However, I didn’t find any reference to it in the Control Panel’s Add or Remove Programs list, nor did I find any uninstall utility or directions on the CD or on First 4 Internet’s site. I checked the EULA and saw no mention of the fact that I was agreeing to have software put on my system that I couldn't uninstall. Now I was mad.

I deleted the driver files and their Registry keys, stopped the $sys$DRMServer service and deleted its image, and rebooted. As I was deleting the driver Registry keys under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services I noted that they were either configured as boot-start drivers or members of groups listed by name in the HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot subkeys, which means that they load even in Safe Mode, making system recovery extremely difficult if any of them have a bug that prevents the system from booting.
When I logged in again I discovered that the CD drive was missing from Explorer. Deleting the drivers had disabled the CD. Now I was really mad.


Folks they are 100% breaking the law with this if you have purchased music of the sort described here and are having problems you are legally entitled to sue for damages and its also a criminal offence in most countries to install items like this without the user being warned and agreeing to it - boycott Sony Now and show them we will not allow fat cat companies corporate hacjking of our machines, please consult a lawyer and show him the above link if you want to earn a nice peice of change from Sony.  :twisted:

(Cheers to Creepella for pointing this outrage out to me   8) )

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2005, 05:01:18 am »
Sony have decided to allow you to remove any of their trojan software and have asked the malware makers to provide an updated tool to do so.

http://updates.xcp-aurora.com/

This also seems to want to install an active X component rather than a checkable download, who can trust these people not to be installing more malware  :?

It seems its not just Sony either..

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20051102/103241_F.shtml


When will the greedy learn  :roll:

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2005, 12:53:26 pm »
hi, newbie here....
do they not realize this could be a massive class action law suit? I admit, some companies can go a little too far, but to me this is more of making their own virus!I can understand trying to protect their assets, but isn't there someone in their organization who maybe has some bells ringing in their head? this is just utterly ridiculous! now I'm going to take my pc to my IT guy lol.....

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2005, 04:34:19 pm »
There is a simple test for this trojan on your system as outlined by the author who discovered this.

1) Right click in windows explorer in any folder and select new text document, to create a blank file

2) Rename the document to $sys$hello.exe and click yes you wish to allow the file extension to be changed

If it disappears then unfortunately you are infected, if not your machine is clear.  :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2005, 12:15:46 pm »
lol...I just tried that to see if i was infetctd...now it won't delete...rofl.
it is being used by another person or program.
Gotta use hijack this to get rid of it  :lol:

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2005, 02:20:39 pm »
That does not sound good   :?

I tried the same on my machine and it allows me to do whatever I like with the file, I suspect somethings not good on your machine, grab the rootkit revealer to double check for this Sony parasite and any others.

http://www.sysinternals.com/Files/RootkitRevealer.zip

This program will detect any Hidden from windows items, worth a scan just for the pleasure of knowing your machine is clean.

I also found this non Active X link to the sony "fix" that merely allows you to see this parasite, you still cannot remove it .

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/Update031105.zip


Most folks are now calling for a Sony boycot, as I already boycott them I am pleased that others have woken up to this company and their dirty trick.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2005, 04:30:36 pm »
Some comapnies are already exploiting the situation to gain new users for their software  :o

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12624

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This "anti rootkit protection" is not a new function of AnyDVD , rather it is the nature of AnyDVD to filter all undesired stuff between a CD/DVD drive and the operating system. It is just one example, how well AnyDVD's option to "Remove CD Digital Audio
Protection" is working.



The words of a salesman folks..

Most Cd purchasers just want rid of this trojan.

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 01:53:26 am »
It's not, strictly-speaking, a backdoor program. Hackers have no idea of knowing whether a target system is infected with SOny's rootkit, and other than jsut changing the name of their program they can't make use of it. The real backdoor is just hte rootkit technology that makes Sony's DRM program possible in teh first place, and that's something that more than likely will never be fixed in XP, although I do hold out hopes for there to be solutions in Vista. One thing to keep in mind with the people running Rootkit Revealer, is that Rootkit just finds problems, it doesn't fix them. Also, due to the way Rootkit Revealer opperates, you're bound to get plenty of false-positives. You can't use your computer, at all, while running it or else you'll get lots of false positives--that means unplugging it from teh internet and not touching it at all while it runs. That's the only way to get an accurate count of what's using rootkit technology to hide itself, and what was just written to the drive after Rootkit Revealer scanned the windows table but before it scanned the actual drive. Also, just because you have a rootkit, doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. For example, Kasperski anti-virus uses rootkit technology, and so does the Norton recycle bin. One question though: I got a music sampler from wind-up about a year ago that was testing this new DRM scheme, would there be any way of knowing if it uses the same rootkit tech the Sony one does?

OH--almost forgot: 99 times out of 100, the bands that Sony produces have absolutely no idea whatsoever this is going on. IF you want to alienate Sony's actual contract-holders, letting them know just what their own CDs are doing to peoples' computers would be a VERY good place to start.

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 02:58:55 am »
Oh, forgot acouple things. It's not a "trojan," either, since as far as i know it doesnt' connect to the internet, or look for anyone else to connect to it via the internet. So it doesn't fit the deffinition of a backdore, either. It's a rootkit.

The other thing is the active Ex control that it asks you to install. What this does is, rather than uninstallign the program, downloads an upgrade to the protection program--a service pack one, if you will--this (in theory, so I'm led to believe) fixes all the problems people were having with blue screens of death and so forth. However, you can choose "no" and to uninstall it instead, as well.

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2005, 03:08:01 pm »
Thanks for the extra info Lysander, I dont have this on my system so there was no need to run the Active X component.

Some folks have reported this does make an external connection to a server controlled by Sony so the trojan label is accurate as far as I,m concerned, its mentioned in the comment section of marks article if you would like to track down the original reference but thats where I read about it.  :)

Its just disappointingly criminal that Sony would go this far in surrepticously installing items on a persons machine without them knowing in breach of many laws and without many of the artists being aware of it either, what were they thinking.   :(

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2005, 06:54:02 pm »
Well, the ULA says you're *installing* the copy protection. it's just very vaguely worded (purposefully I'm sure) and says you can uninstall it, which is--obviously--impossible without having to reconfigure your hardware setup. It's important to mention that you *can* get your CD drive back, and without doing something as painstaking as re-installing windows. I didn't know about hte sony connection, I'll have to read teh comments then I guess. I'm not quite sure what use Sony has for that, my guess would be marketing purposes in which case this would be more considered spyware than a trojan, really. ...Though I'll grant you, the differences are becoming less and less every day. *eyeroll*

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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 04:55:55 pm »
More news on the Sony malware ..

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/sonys-rootkit-first-4-internet.html

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I speculated that the player sends Sony’s web site a CD identifier as part of a check to see if new song lyrics or artwork was available, which they essentially confirm. Their claim that the communication is “one way” from Sony’s web site is false, however, since Sony can make a record of each time their player is used to play a CD, which CD is played, and what computer is playing the CD. If they’ve configured standard Web server logging then they are doing that. As I stated earlier, I doubt Sony is using this information to track user behavior, but the information allows them to do so. In any case, First 4 Internet cannot claim what Sony is or is not doing with the information since they do not control those servers, and the First 4 Internet response fails to address the fact that the End User License Agreement (EULA) and Sony executives either make no mention of the “phone home” behavior or explicitly deny it.

Another point that I made in the post is that the decloaking patch that Sony has made available weighs in at a relatively large 3.5 MB because it not only removes the rootkit, it also replaces most of the DRM files with updated versions. First 4 Internet responded with this:

In addition to removing the cloaking, Service Pack 2 includes all fixes from the earlier Service Pack 1 update. In order to ensure a secure installation, Service Pack 2 includes the newest version of all DRM components, hence the large file size for the patch. We have updated the language on our web site to be clearer on this point.

It’s not clear to me what they mean by “a secure installation”, but like most of the disclosure in this story, they’ve acknowledged the updating nature of the patch only after someone else has disclosed it first. What’s also lost in their response is that Sony DRM users not following this story as it develops have no way of knowing that there’s a patch available or that they even have software installed that requires a patch.


It would seem Sony are trying to buy time like doing the EULA swap that has already taken place, the original not even mentioning this software to the user. other companies are steering clear of this issue in a big way

http://news.com.com/EMI+We+dont+use+rootkits/2100-1029_3-5937108.html?part=rss&tag=5937108&subj=news

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The EMI Group, one of the world's largest recording companies, has distanced itself from the controversy surrounding digital rights management (DRM) software used by Sony BMG by stating that it does not use rootkits on its own products.

Sony has been criticized for including DRM software with a music CD that runs even when the CD is not being played, and hides itself using rootkit technology. The software is difficult to remove and, if removed manually, could shut off access to the computer's CD player.

It has been rumored that other recording giants including EMI and the Universal Music Group use technology similar to that used by Sony; an EMI spokesman said on Friday that the DRM used on EMI's CDs can be completely removed if the user doesn't want to play the CD any more.

"The content-protection software that we're using can be easily uninstalled with a standard uninstaller that comes on the disc. EMI is not using any software that hides traces of the program. There is no 'rootkit' behavior, and there are no processes left running in the background," said an EMI spokesman in a statement.
"EMI is not using First 4 Internet technology. We recently completed a trial of three content-protection technologies (Macrovision's CDS300, SunnComm's MediaMax and SonyDADC's key2audioXS), and First 4 Internet's technology was not one of those tested," said the spokesman.



Why dont Sony just allow the simple removal program to be released without all this fuss instead of demanding folks get involved in protracted e mail exchanges to rid themselves of this junk.

Shame on you SONY

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 06:37:12 pm »
This is frickin rediculous. Sony doesnt want to loose money because of file sharing yet they will loose more money by putting software on someones computer without them knowing. They are gonna have a LARGE lawsuit against them if they dont warn the purchaser that there will be software install on their computer. Do you know why they wont warn you first? Because they will loose money because people dont want things installed on their computers unless they know and trust it. Sony is in a bear trap at the moment and i am laughing. LOL

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 11:59:57 pm »
Hey, thanks for that CNET article. I think this is very funny, because now EMI is running as fast as they can away from Sony. Even though they tried out Sony's own copy protection on their discs! This is utterly ludicrous and unbelievable.

Someone in one post on the blog raised th epossibility that they're doing this email runnaround because Sony doesnt' even have an uninstall program yet, they're just bullshitting and trying tesperately to remove this badly-designed software without leaving any lasting effeccs, which is impossible because First Four Internet can't program their way out of a paper bag. Sony's completely stuck, and it's just a matter of time--and not much time at that--before it all comes atumblin' down for them. :D

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2005, 02:49:54 am »
Important follow-up read on GostShip's post:

Follow this link for more recent info and how Trojans are now riding in on the back of Sony's "rootkit" : http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5944643.html

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2005, 03:17:36 am »
Sony's EULA is worse than their DRM
I'm never gonna buy another Sony BMG cd again. :shock:
 

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here is how to get rid of the Sony DRM
1.Format your HDD.
2.Install Linux.

or you can take the long route and call in Jappan's help desk
 :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2005, 12:11:46 pm »
It seems even the US dept of home security are not happy with Sony

http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/5002/admonish.html

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Sony knew they were dead in the water when the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) admonished them on the CD rootkit scandal - at a Chamber of Commerce event on combating intellectual-property theft. According to Briand Krebs of the Washington Post the Department of Homeland Security's assistant secretary for policy, Stewart Baker, made at the event "a remark clearly aimed directly at Sony and other labels":

"It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days"
 
The Recording Industry Association of America's CEO Mitch Bainwol was in attendance and you knew that these words had to run a shiver down his spine. He is spending quite a bit of time on the beltway these days pushing several new bills to give Hollywood control of how consumers use future electronic products. But, it is hard to call certain activities illegal when one of your members spreads what security pundits called malicious code to millions of home computers. It just undermines his argument, especially when a senior Bush official looks him straight in the eye and says he agrees with the pundits.

Bainwol has another big worry. The controversy from the Sony scandal has the potential to go beyond Sony by tainting the CD format itself in the eyes of consumers. This could kill the format, though it is not clear yet what effect, if any, this will have on record sales. The word-of-mouth building on the Net looks ominous right now. The industry is now looking to lay low and hope this passes.


And lay low is what they should be doing as its one thing their prices will never do  :lol:

I hope enough people are boycotting the trojan infested rubbish to make some sort of impact on their bank balance and many more step to join in the major lawsuits that have already been started in 3 countries against this company.
Other too are enjoying the fun at Sony,s expense

http://news.com.com/Microsoft+will+wipe+Sonys+rootkit/2100-1002_3-5949041.html

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Microsoft will update its security tools to detect and remove part of the copy protection tools installed on PCs when some music CDs are played.

The Redmond, Wash., software maker has determined that the "rootkit" piece of the XCP software on some Sony BMG Music Entertainment CDs can pose a security risk to Windows PCs, according to a posting Saturday to a Microsoft corporate Web log.

The Sony BMG software installs itself deeply inside a hard drive when a CD is played on a PC. The technology uses rootkit techniques to hide itself. Experts blasted the cloaking mechanism, saying it could be abused by virus writers. The first remote-control Trojan horses that take advantage of the veil provided by Sony BMG have surfaced.

To protect Windows users, Microsoft plans to update Windows AntiSpyware and the Malicious Software Removal Tool as well as the online scanner on Windows Live Safety Center to detect and remove the Sony BMG software, the software maker said in its blog.


Well at least someone has made a way to remove it without it causing too much damage to folks installs, for the first and probably the last time, Well Done MicroSoft

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2005, 07:32:32 pm »
Hey Microsoft isn't completely worthless after all :lol:

I guess I'm already boycotting Sony Already, last thing I bought that was Sony was a stereo.

Hell, I might just buy a CD just to be able to sue them...

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2005, 02:38:38 am »
:lol: online Gamers hackers Exploiting the rootkit.

World of Warcraft hackers using Sony BMG rootkit

Want to cheat in your online game and not get caught? Just buy a Sony BMG copy protected CD.

World of Warcraft hackers have confirmed that the hiding capabilities of Sony BMG's content protection software can make tools made for cheating in the online world impossible to detect. The software--deemed a "rootkit" by many security experts--is shipped with tens of thousands of the record company's music titles.

Blizzard Entertainment, the maker of World of Warcraft, has created a controversial program that detects cheaters by scanning the processes that are running at the time the game is played. Called the Warden, the anti-cheating program cannot detect any files that are hidden with Sony BMG's content protection, which only requires that the hacker add the prefix "$sys$" to file names.

source: online.securityfocus

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2005, 06:32:33 am »
Haha I hope Sony loses this case big time. :twisted:

Texas sues Sony BMG for 'spyware' on CDs
Nov 21 2:32 PM US/Eastern

The state of Texas sued Sony BMG, alleging that the company
"surreptitiously" installed spyware on personal computers through music
CDs with a copy protection program.

"Sony has engaged in a technological version of cloak and dagger deceit
against consumers by hiding secret files on their computers," said Texas
Attorney General Greg Abbott in a statement after suing under the
state's anti-spyware law.

"Consumers who purchased a Sony CD thought they were buying music.
Instead, they received spyware that can damage a computer, subject it to
viruses and expose the consumer to possible identity crime."

Sony BMG, one of the world's biggest music companies, said last week it
was ending the use of the software provided by a third-party vendor and
allowing consumers who purchased CDs to exchange them for similar items
without the software.

The joint venture of Japan's Sony and German-based BMG recalled the CDs
after a firestorm of protests and the threat of legal action over its
use of the so-called XCP copy protection software.

Experts say that when one of the CDs is inserted into a PC, the
copy-protection software can modify computer settings and expose
computers to a variety of malicious software programs.
source : breitbart

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