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Offline GhostShip

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Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« on: June 22, 2006, 03:57:46 pm »
Folks I think its about time you met another of the pie teams main members who has taken it upon himself to decide you are required to use pie instead of having any choice, lets get the low down on this guy and his repeated lies.

I read this over at Vladds forum (resident forum for the pie team)

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If KM and his brood keep trying to show up the riaa, they will simply test us in court. 

given that there is case law to reference concerning the filtering issue, i see the .dll solution as a tremendous detriment to the health of the network.

regardless of KM's past, regardless of the fact that there have been some fine features built into the.dll solution, if there is a court case, there is precedent that they (we) will lose instantly. then there will be MXPie remaining if we ALL aren't taken down as a result of the irresponsible action of filtering at the peer cache level.

the dire facts remain that:
-KM purposely disconnected hundreds of thousands of users by changing IP's
-KM hijacked users of pie patch 2.9 by creating a 1 room room list, which is a redirect room to WMW help room.
-wmw or km created a room called !!! PIE IS DEAD_ which is also a redirect room to wmw help.
-KM, QuickSilver, Neutron, and others have repeatedly terrorized our help rooms and Vladd44 main chat room spreading discontent.
-etc...

these are tactics MXPie has never employed nor will we.

think what you want. use the solution that suits you best. MXPie has always tried to keep the bigger picture in mind.

even if it wasn't KM and co. pushing this issue. no matter who may have chosen the peer cache filtering path, i would have objected based on the case law in place. nothing personal at all.

add the drama that KM's involvement brings and the underhanded tactics employed to "steal" users (for what purpose i am still scratching my head) and we have a difficult situation.

Last edited by JIM-921 on Yesterday at 09:49; edited 1 time in total


I think it best If take each of his points an demonstrate the flaw in his arguements and expose why he has been having to resort to lying.

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If KM and his brood keep trying to show up the riaa, they will simply test us in court. 


What court would that be Jim ? Specifically which continent on the globe would be near enough.

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given that there is case law to reference concerning the filtering issue, i see the .dll solution as a tremendous detriment to the health of the network.


What case law, and what countries case law, as most laws are not global.

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regardless of KM's past, regardless of the fact that there have been some fine features built into the.dll solution, if there is a court case, there is precedent that they (we) will lose instantly. then there will be MXPie remaining if we ALL aren't taken down as a result of the irresponsible action of filtering at the peer cache level.


What are you implying Jim regarding KM,s past ? At least KM has a documented visible past in the community unlike yourself a person who many of us have never heard of.
Can you explain once more the "global case law" your refering to, and what filtereing at the caches are you speaking of ?
Can you also explain why you feel the network would close up overnight because of a court ruling in somewhere say like the US that has no control over the rest of the globe ?

It does sound like your a scaremonger, its impossible for the WPN to close as long as there are node connecting solutions and those are already in place as you are more than aware, I also think most users will laugh at you if you think they will remove files from their machines because the US goverment stamped its "bought and  paid for" foot.

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the dire facts remain that:

Connecting to mx successfully and without fakes is dire ?


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-KM purposely disconnected hundreds of thousands of users by changing IP's


Why do you repeat this lie Jim ?
Jim has seen the proof here that they knew of the cache changes two weeks before they had problems, the pie team and Jim took no action, is he claiming KM is responsible for the pie team now, if not what is he talking about ?

https://forum.winmxworld.com/index.php?topic=2425.0.html

Please note the date folks.


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-KM hijacked users of pie patch 2.9 by creating a 1 room room list, which is a redirect room to WMW help room.

-wmw or km created a room called !!! PIE IS DEAD_ which is also a redirect room to wmw help.


Users indeed are being helped back on to the network, the same users left using a pie patch that had no working caches in it, and its no secret either,
not only are user kept informed here but on other important forums too.

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23149

We see no reason not to help users obtain a fully working winmx solution, if you have another agenda JIm lets hear it and leave the users out of the politics.


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-KM, QuickSilver, Neutron, and others have repeatedly terrorized our help rooms and Vladd44 main chat room spreading discontent.
-etc...

Many user here may not know that my screename on winmx is QuickSilver, indeed its one I have had a long time from when I first started helping winmx users on CricketMx,  where you can find many of my posts that predated the opening of winmxworld, Jim of course has no such history to fall back on, so he invokes my respected name to draw attention to his false claim.
I am aware KM has visited the vladd44 rooms to ask them to stop making allegations attacking him etc but i myself have only been in vladds 4 times in 8 months and have not caused any disruption to thier activities since an initial disagreement last october, please provide a log if you wish to show different JIM or apologise.

I have visited Vladds a few days ago soley to support Rock who operates a peer cache, he was not happy with Sabre lying to him and other minor unecessary happenings and asked I be present as a trusted third party, I went to the room and was kicked 10 times in a row by those abusing the room on a childish pie power trip, are we to trust this sort of people to have any say over how the network should progress when they refuse to even act sensibly regarding one of the important peer caches user require to connect ?

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these are tactics MXPie has never employed nor will we.


Hardly true Jim when pie members have continuously deleted topics and rewritten posts to falsify replies and banned users who became frustrated with censorship.
If you have never indulged in misleading please state clearly you are not in agreement with flagrant lies being told and what you have done to stop them in vladds rooms, I think logs showing you sat by and did nothing to correct them and actively added to them are available.


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think what you want. use the solution that suits you best. MXPie has always tried to keep the bigger picture in mind.


We like to think the users can decide for themselves given a choice, and they have done in droves, mxpie was set up to keep the network in the public eye  and was initially a healthy competitive idea but without continuing in any fields to move users onto a more long term solution the pie has gone stale, i tried to ask the team memebers in vladds room to look at the bigger picture themselves but there ideas are based in keeping a host file and forcing its limitations on users including allowing macrovision to steal users bandwidth to attack other users and generate millions of useless terabytes of traffic each week, are they told this by the "honest" pie team ?

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even if it wasn't KM and co. pushing this issue. no matter who may have chosen the peer cache filtering path, i would have objected based on the case law in place. nothing personal at all.


KM and Co ? Who does Jim actually refer to, I myself would have a very hard time remembering the lists of names thats posts on vladds and are now boycotting there as the forum is no longer a friendly helpful place to posts openly.
What filtering are you refering to once more Jim with this "global law" theory you have ?
Please show me the links so I can show you why it will not apply, telling lies is always a personal matter here, we pride and place honesty to the users above our own desires, a practice that should be present on any forum that claims to reflect the wishses of its users.

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add the drama that KM's involvement brings and the underhanded tactics employed to "steal" users (for what purpose i am still scratching my head) and we have a difficult situation.

An apology is warranted to the users let down by those pushing a host file solution, pie has failed the users and had no provision in place to deal with a catastrophic failure, KM on the other hand has made extensive plans for disaster recovery and many options are in place on standby to secure the network against even illegal server seizure, as has happened in some cases like the pirate bay and others. Such attacks would not even be noticed by most users as a seamless plan would swing into action in the event of such activity, can pie even make that claim let alone be prepared to back it ?

This of course is one of the benefits of not using a patch that requires updating every few weeks or months, the latest winmxgroup patch has new features to offer as did the previous one, they are actual improvement, having taken many weeks or months of work to perfect, should we use a wheelbarrow when we have the keys to a sports car ?

The only difficulty I see is how to step aside gracefully and regroup the pie team into focusing on what the users want and how to deliver it, sitting in chatrooms and doing nothing more than bail out a sinking boat is not called progress.

As regards the writer of this post Jim ,I feel disappointed knowing he is a self professed christian and it seems holds no real respect for the tenets of that faith.

Thou shalt not bear false witness.

I apologise to christians who may be offended by that sharp word to Jim but I feel he should put his house in order before pontificating and condemning in his views of others.

Jim can be found in the Inceptum room if you wish to ask him his views

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2006, 04:39:51 pm »
 The   Inceptum room was first created by X-vladd44 room and forum Admins. For Users that for one reason or the other had cut ranks with vladd44 room and his forum.

 They in no way are apart of this room now .Jim was one who took the room name and kept it open when those users left the WPN. There fore hijacking the room name and some of its users. The last i spoke to any of those founding members they were not happy to say the lest about this but being that they no longer were on mx They stated it should not take long for the people to see the room is not the same and what jim is all about.

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2006, 04:53:44 pm »
Hmm I hear what your saying Bill, I have asked Jim to recant the lies he is making and he had seemed responsible before, but I am no longer in the position of being able to turn a blind eye on this matter as users confidence and trust is important to me and I hope yourself.

Thanks for letting us know whats happened to the room anyway  8)

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2006, 05:30:19 pm »
The pie team is a shame.. They think KM/WMW are the "bad guys", but that's not right.. Have a neutral person look at the case.
They can claim this "bogey server" is childish and not acceptable.. and yeh I see your point but.. no.. it's not childish. If it was done just out of nowhere just to annoy the pie team, then it would be childish, but it's not after all the lies that the pie team brought up, all the deleted and modified forum posts...

The only thing that makes pie so big now is vladd's old good reputation, and that they deny the dll..
I happened to come across these quotes from the pie meeting chat log that was published in the very start of the pie team..

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[15:52] Vladd44: people will go to where they know
[15:52] Vladd44: and a lot of people know v44
[15:52] Vladd44: and love is building a rep on help
[15:52] Vladd44: but we need to get more involved in helping
[15:52] Vladd44: thats the key

A few minutes earlier in the log, I saw this:

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[15:49] SABre'911: The 2.7 version of the host file well have at least 1 or 2 new caches in it, and probably remove KM's caches.

They were the ones who wanted to run off of their own peer caches from the start.. now they are blaming KM when it happened. Even when they were informed about it before the IP change.
They say KM is trying to hijack MX and their users... then look at this..

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[15:09] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): ppl r using pie patch fine ... they all get the info and many look in for updates
[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): but the official word needs to go out to stop using KM's patch
[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): like on the front page
[15:10] Mikey: updates of a new pie patch need to be put in the banner of winmx
[15:10] Vladd44: also, anyone that direct linked to the old ffiles will be forwarded to the piepatch.php page
[15:10] Vladd44: yes

[15:10] Vladd44: i will be adding a section on how to remove the dll

[15:10] love005_2004@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified): but seriously like what Matt said we need to get KM's patch off his site :) or something as drastic as that to stop ppl from using it.

That's not trying to hijack/monopolise WinMX?

KM wasn't doing anything other than being honest and creating a working solution to fix MX.. then they declared this "war" on KM's patch. I think I've read in some other log or quotes that they were going to get KM's patch off slyck's website and promote their own, but I couldn't find it in this log.

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[16:11] Camille  Le On: you drive away the users with the fighting there will be no winmx

Camille had a good point there... but no one listened. they started this drama instead of leaving things alone. now see how it turned out... And they put the blame on KM for this drama...

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006, 06:54:29 am »
I see Jim does not have the decency to even come here and attempt to defend his actions, I think this proves once and for all that the pie team have no wish to be open and honest as they claim.

As mentioned previously I have visited Jims room twice and he seemed mysteriously unavailable on both ocasions, hardly inspiring confidence in trusting the pie team or him.


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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2006, 07:16:26 am »
By Jim's legal theory I should have a mountain of speeding tickets for driving at 70mph  because US speed limit is 55 ummmmmmmmmm funny the cops here seem not to be bothered.. even the speed cameras don't care & they're stupid about minor infractions on empty roads...
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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 04:17:50 pm »
Jim.. all he ever did was to sit in the background and ban me. I guess he's one of those who work more "behind the scenes" in the pie team. I wonder what he's actually doing :P

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2006, 04:34:16 pm »
Nothing that benefits winmx users you can be sure of that.

If he feels different I along with those who have not even heard of him would be ready to hear exactly what he claims he does to help winmx.

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2006, 05:30:33 pm »
he's just one of those who do nothing, but is one of the "main leaders" of the pie team, along with vladd and gem. His job is to take the credits for other's work (botch job)
maybe he's one of those who profit from pie's scam ads.

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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2006, 06:32:12 pm »
Off of the Pie web site. 


       Human Resources:

JIM-921 – jim-921@hotmail.com
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Re: Who is JIM-921 And Why He Knows Better Than You All
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2006, 06:41:31 pm »
I think its fair to say Jim is one of the main rumour-mongers the other being Sabre911 who seems to have no real concept as to how the WPN works, he seems to leave the chatrooms when those who do enter them.
This sort of behaviour from the person who claims to advise pie on technical matters is hardly likely to instill confidence in users

Most of what they have alleged is pure invention and sometimes a fragment of truth to lend credibility to their claims, but it seems a shame they place the interest of themselves above ordinary winmx users.
I personally wonder why they insist on scaring new users away from winmx unless they use their solution or any of the pie team sites for a pay winmx solution.


We believe in a free winmx solution for all, that is effective and does as it claims, the winmxgroup file does all this and more, protectecting the network and the user in turn.
The facts speak for themselves 95% of all WPN flooding is carried by unprotected host file users, so what the pie team are claiming is a right to attack other users and flood the WPN, we dont feel this is reasonable and cannot see why they believe their rights take precedence over anyone elses.



I have tried to understand and rationalise with these people but when they have to resort to telling lies like they do the community is harmed and  we risk losing credibility from the userbase as a whole.

What can we do about the post editing, lies, banning of users, and the general lamership coming from the pie team controlled forums that even to this day offer pay winmx ?

This at least is a simple to answer question, lets ignore the chilish antics and work on helping each other as we have done freely and move forward on some community projects that will benefit all winmx users, they seem to have nothing to offer any user of winmx except fabricated horror stories that sound good to new users but have no basis in fact.

I am disappointed they have let pie patch users down and are not able to apologise for their inaction, instead preffering like a child to point to others instead of facing the truth and doing the respectable thing, apologise.

I hope they feel the shame their lack of actions deserve.


Lets move forward folks, we promise and deliver, and we will go on doing that while we believe its in your interests, please let us know if you feel something is not to the standards you expect from us, winmx is a way of life to us and we hope you feel the same way too.





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