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Offline TheMacDaddy

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Gamers To Be Hit With Fines
« on: August 20, 2008, 03:35:46 pm »
Gamers Hit By Fines From Lawyers
By Sky News SkyNews - Wednesday, August 20 11:39 amThousands of gamers who have shared files illegally online are about to get a nasty surprise through the post - a fine for hundreds of pounds.


The makers behind popular games such as The Lord Of The Rings and the Colin McRae rally series are set to serve 25,000 people with the legal notices.

The families targeted must then pay £300 to settle out of court or face the possibility of a trial.

They are accused of sharing games by top makers Atari, Codemasters, Topware Interactive, Reality Pump and Techland, illegally.

Roger Billens from the law firm leading the action, Davenport Lyons, said his clients were "incensed" by the large numbers of file-sharers.

"In the first 14 days since Topware Interactive released Dream Pinball 3D it sold 800 legitimate copies but was illegally downloaded 12,000 times. Hopefully people will think twice if they risk being taken to court," he said.

Partner David Gore blamed faster internet download speeds for the problem and said it results in "millions of pounds of losses to copyright owners".

The scale of the crackdown dwarfs the efforts made by the UK music business against illegal downloaders as they have reportedly launched action against just 150 people in the last decade.


Is this for real ???
And if so just how did they know who dl'ed there content ?

I am not one of them   but it scares me to just sit bk and think about where they got there figuars from.


Offline GhostShip

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Re: Gamers To Be Hit With Fines
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 12:41:58 am »
Mac have you parked your faculties ?

Fines don't just come through the post as you know.

I have been following this propaganda for months on Slycks and so I,m more than familiar with the facts in this and other similar demands this company are trying to scare folks into.

Lets get to the facts here, a Swiss company illegally watch torrent swarms and pick out European IP's, this is illegal under UK law (data protection act) and European law, something that would have made the case void if the case had been contested,  in the UK this info is purchased  by a firm of solicitors called Davenport Lyons who obtain the illegal info and then ask a court for an order to find out who has breached the copyright of their "clients" in this case a company called "topware interactive", armed with this info they send out the usual type of threatening demands based on misleading claims and outright lies, they seem to think a court will agree with them that a few parts of a torrent file constitutes a breach of their copyright , something that's unlikely to be the case, in fact many folks have found that its impossible for them to have committed any infringement as they where technically unable to upload/download the files claimed during their ISP throttling period , and worse in one case the line was out of service so its unlikely their "data collection system" looks likely to pass even the slightest scrutiny.

The facts to be aware of are these : open wireless router defences are being dropped by this company and thus far all the cases they have brought have been undefended, as you know under the law I can claim any amount of money and you will have to pay up what I demand if you don't turn up in court, silly system buts that's how it works.

Using bit-torrent you have by the way that system works aided in "uploading" the file and thus there is a chance you could be found liable if you went to court, P2p down loaders still have nothing to fear as the law states quite clearly you must have uploaded the file and thus breached the "right of creating a copy", or copyright infringement in plain terms. 

My advice is to have nothing to do with this company or their software, if you receive a demand write off to them demanding particulars of the alleged infringement and proceed from their, admit nothing and seek legal advice if the letters become threatening or offensive, many have stood their ground and heard nothing, but dont fall into the trap of not writing to them to resolve the matter, its always helpful to show good will efforts have been tried when you get to court and present your wireless router defence.
   

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