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@Stripes: Browsing is not infringing activity, its simply a list delivered from a winmx primary and a list is not the same as actual file data that is necessary to bring a claim for infringement.Pri you may have noticed this is a WinMX support forum, do you really expect me of all people to pretend bit torrent is faster in all cases when I know in many cases that's just not the case?Why you continue to make the claim that bit torrent is faster because its bit torrent is beyond me but perhaps you have some reference data to show why this could be so ?Data is transferred in blocks and sequential or not the data arrives at the downloader just as fast as it would if they where using a torrent client, if your claiming this is not the case I hope you have some data to back up your claim, winmx is also able to transfer multiple files at once btw What we agree on thankfully is the need to get ourselves into a more positive position and most of your suggestions have already been mulled over having cropped up in many previous discussions held here and when possible many will come to fruit, my issue for the current time is that the fruit crop is delayed and we need to ensure other aspects of the community are taken care of and improved upon in the meanwhile thus my call for activity and action, doing nothing is not the way ahead I,m sure we all agree.
On the bickering front .. I asked folks for positive ideas for creating a wider and more expansive community for the future and how best to achieve that comments regarding other networks are not really of help as they bring nothing to the table that we are currently individually unaware of, I do like to hear of the background frame of reference behind the ideas but when its getting simply off topic and does not deliver either ideas or a strategy for something positive I feel its only right to say so, we have had many good conversations and I enjoy your well researched opinions however you must appreciate my view is based on the premise that we need to do more as a community and sitting idle when help or support is needed is not really being part of the community, you of all ppl would agree with that I,m sure and its not really you or Pri I'm trying to reach out to here its the lay users, they need to hear the truth and that truth is we need to look forward and act as a community to make important and strategic changes in the direction we are going, you all know this and thus you all know where I,m coming from I haven't got any secret agenda and I don't presume to deliver orders to anyone but as a long time and educated winmx user you all know, I once again ask you all to see what you can bring to the table in the way of ideas and strategies for improving our lot, both Stripes and Pri are gracious enough to take the time to post their ideas as they regularly do both here and in private conversation and I may take umbrage with how those comments are delivered but they take part and they have my respect for that, now fellow users what can you offer as a vision for the future, we are all our ships captain so now's the time to lay out a course.
my issue for the current time is that the fruit crop is delayed and we need to ensure other aspects of the community are taken care of and improved upon in the meanwhile
What have ANY of you done to try to promote THAT concept?
but once again your not comparing like with like and its weakening your claims severely
but you want some serious suggestions for the future? i have but 2....1. clone client... exact functional duplicate with all the same artificial limitations in place... 2. advertise the hell out of this clone client saying that new features can now be added while monitoring client uptake... if the uptake is bad then lets just let winmx fade to obscurity... if uptake is good... add features and hope for the best....cos with what we have now theres not much that can be done except social networks' word of mouth....
"fully document the winmx protocol, chat, secondary and primary"
There are a few things reading above that made me respond again.First is dowloadspeed and I mentioned it before is depending on sources and bandwidth and tcp/ip being an over 50 year old protocol, it is still the best there is. This cannot be changed by different clients.Quality of files, If you take newsgroups, or any p2p, there are great differences in quality of content and as I don't think WinMx is meant to get CD quality music or HD-TV movies but for sharing and discussing samples there is no need to share 80Gb files.You will have to find resources giving good quality and will learn to shift the crap.I never have been virus infected by files I downloaded from WinMx which I cannot say from many other filesharing groups I tried. This might be just because WinMx users are of a different specimen than lets say kaaza.Sharing albums or series is provided in WinMx if you share lists of filehashes.What we maybe can look into in future is a bonus system like other p2p clients have. the more you upload the higher your rank in a download que, but as far as I have seen the working of those systems, they are not good as the bonus records are stored on one side of the p2p and only at one client. This means if you are a good uploader for one client that has nothing to download for you, you get a high rank in que, but that helps little if you will never end up in that que.A very big minus I found in bit torrent is the fact if you jump in a pool that is one week old, you most likely never finish the file as most sources stop seeding when the file is completely downloaded. I know this happens on WinMx too, but our community has many sharers that realy want to share and only take a file from share when it is no longer asked for.To use WinMx you must be a bit inventive sometimes, but it can do everything if not more than any other p2p.
I personally would like the code made so that those running the 0-0 hack or 1-1 hack blocked from the network even if the code is closed. WinMx is a file sharing network and these people are cheating other users.