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Offline GhostShip

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Booting Battle Hots up
« on: October 19, 2011, 09:09:00 am »
The ability to boot your own hardware to an operating system of your choice is on the line with the lock in plans Microsoft have been pushing for nearly 10 years coming to fruit in windows 8, plans that are likely to ensure Linux users are left out in the cold.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/18/fsf_windows_8_campaign/

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PC makers are being lobbied to install Windows 8 on machines in a way that will afford users the freedom to boot Linux or any other operating system.

The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is urging PC users to sign a statement demanding that OEMs which implement Windows 8's UEFI Secure Boot do so in a way that allows individuals to disable it, or that the PC makers provide a "sure-fire way" to install and run an operating system of the user's choice.

The statement says that giving this choice will protect users' rights and security.The FSF has also hinted at a boycott on buying Windows 8 PCs. "We commit that we will neither purchase nor recommend computers that strip users of this critical freedom, and we will actively urge people in our communities to avoid such jailed systems," the FSF concludes.

Windows 8's Secure Boot was branded "Restricted Boot" by the FSF because "it would be a disastrous restriction on computer users and not a security feature at all".
The FSF's website became suddenly unavailable Tuesday morning due to "technical problems" once word of the campaign began to spread.

Many of you here will have read about the Trusted Computing Platform, an initiative to lock operating systems securely from boot to running stage, on paper its an idea that will aid a lot of folks but looking deeper its not so helpful as it will give Microsoft a monopoly on such lock in systems and starve out any new innovators and of course unfavoured operating systems like Linux and any other O/s that has no one to champion it.
Of course this will in time lead to a smaller market with higher software prices and would in turn limit the hardware manufacturing base to those who do as MS demand and those who are blocked from allowing their hardware from running any new windows versions, its going to be a mess if left unchecked.

The free software foundation are asking for the support of all PC users to stop this madness before it gets embedded in such a way that it cannot be undone, the time to act is now  :yes:
Make your way here to see how you can help keep the market un-monopolised and maintain your right of O/s Choice.

http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement

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Re: Booting Battle Hots up
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 10:12:59 am »
http://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot

i foresee 'jailbroken' PCs .... after all... if phones and game consoles can be made to run other osen pcs can be made to do it again as well....

Offline Lagerlout666

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Re: Booting Battle Hots up
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 09:59:46 pm »
already looked into this, you can deactivate it at the bios, no doubt you will be able to flash hacked bios's in the future. and just run linux by itself. Linux is more than viable as a everyday computer use now and with wine being so good now even your leagacy stuff will run on it. I just hope people vote with their feet and more over.
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Re: Booting Battle Hots up
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 05:31:27 am »
thing is it says OEMs ... i wonder if build-it-yourself boards will have any restrictions.... after all they have no os to boot (or even a cpu or ram installed) let alone any licence keys....

what -really- sucks anymore is when buying an OEM the licence agreement for windows doesnt show (ive not seen it in a while anyway) so what does one do with a secureboot machine if you dont agree with the licence (if given the option) and want the money back for the windows install thats not gonna be used....


Offline Lagerlout666

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Re: Booting Battle Hots up
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 05:51:31 pm »
Yes very good thinking,  competition laws must come up here. I would imagine board makers will hav,  to have a deactivated section,  just so they don't get sued the back out of.

And as I recall if you buy a pc from dell etc you can claims your OS key back. I have a feeling these BIOS keys will have nothing to do with your actual licence. Other than confirming key is their before the OS will boot. The key may enable boot encryption of the boot sector.  If its missing no install/boot of the ms. OS
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