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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2006, 02:16:49 am »
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CRIA Falling Apart
April 15, 2006
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The CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association) is going through hard times. It seems as though after several bold steps failed, the industry is paying the price for it. It may explain why their last press release was published on March 15. 

The Sam Bulte incident last year may have kicked off the beginning of the Record industry troubles. As a result, an MP lost her seat and possibly her career. The incident was sparked shortly after the debate over two controversial reform bills ended.

The CRIA then conducted a study with Pollara. The CRIA then claimed that file-sharing is the reason for lost sales. The claims were then tarnished when the full report was publicly released. Michael Geist criticised the CRIA's claims. To his surprise, Pollara responded, defending the CRIA's interpretation. Michael Geist then responded to the criticism. Pollara's move may have backfired as it fuelled speculation about connections between the polling firm and the CRIA.

CRIA's Graham Henderson said that he would end the private copying levy. It's a move that would have many effects. The largest effect is the private copying collectives who receive the funds. One effect is the legal consequence of CD burning should the levy be removed. At the same time, Graham Henderson said "we don't want a private copying levy that, in effect, sanctions online theft." Many critics point out that this is confirmation that the private copying levy also applies to file-sharing.

The damage done by the two incidents ran far deeper then a PR setback. Shortly after, 6 of Canada’s leading record labels quit the CRIA. According to the article, "(CRIA is) looking out for their best interest, and their best interest is multinationals that are not Canadian," said Ric Arboit, president of Vancouver-based Nettwerk Records. Nettwerk is known for top Canadian artists (such as Sum 41, Swollen Members and Avril Lavign), Save the Music Fan and funding the defence of an RIAA lawsuit. Nettwerk Records, Aquarius Records, the Children's Group, Linus Entertainment, Anthem Records and True North Records (all class "B" labels) all quit with a letter that states, "It has become increasingly clear over the past few months that CRIA's position on several important music industry issues are not aligned with our best interests as independent recording companies".

The actions drew concern from the Copyright Board. According to Howard Knopf, a lawyer who defended against the CRIA, "The Board then did something quite interesting. Apparently out of concern for the Indies, it ordered CRIA to send notices to the Canadian Indies in the following language: “CRIA recently opted to change the scope of its representation of its members’ interests in the forthcoming proceedings before the Copyright Board dealing with CSI’ s proposed tariff for the reproduction of musical works by online music services. Subsequently, the Board ordered CRIA to advise you of the following:

1) In these proceedings CRIA has chosen to act only on behalf of (name of each member that CRIA represents).
2) As a result, CRIA will not be allowed to advance any argument or lead any evidence that relates to your situation in particular, or to the situation of any other member of CRIA that CRIA does not represent in these proceedings generally.”" The CRIA strongly opposed this.

Not only is the CRIA suffering a tremendous PR blow, but are also suffering commercial blows as well. One may wonder just how Canadian the CRIA is after so much Canadian music labels left. Michael Geist comments how the C is being removed from the CRIA. He even cites these incidents while talking about Canada's 'cultural deficit'.

With so much ailing the CRIA, it likely is the reason why the CRIA has been so quiet lately on the PR front. It's likely that the CRIA can't do much except go quiet and heal from this multiple disaster. Perhaps the last thing the CRIA wants to hear is 'MC Lars - Download This Song' at this point in time.
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Check out http://savethemusicfan.com/ and watch a interview with Terry McBride CEO of Nettwerk Music Group that he did on CBC The Hour.

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2006, 05:37:44 pm »
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A group of popular Canadian musicians have established (PDF) the Canadian Music Creators Coalition (CMCC) in an effort to sway public policy in a direction that they believe is beneficial to consumers. Concerned by highly restrictive DRM technology and the escalation of lawsuits that target consumers, the CMCC wants to promote intellectual property law reforms that will prevent the recording industry from trampling on consumer rights:

Multinational record labels are vocal in their desire for changes to copyright laws that would facilitate lawsuits against our fans and increase their control over the enjoyment of music. To our alarm, the labels advance these demands not merely on their own behalf, but in our names as necessary for the well-being of individual Canadian musicians in the digital age. Today the people who actually create Canadian music are speaking out for themselves.

Comprised of leading popular musicians and groups including Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavigne, and Sarah McLachlan, members of the CMCC have collectively won dozens of Grammy awards and have sold millions of albums. In a policy paper (PDF) available from the CMCC web site, the artists establish principles for copyright reform and condemn the exploitative tactics of the recording industry association. Describing lawsuits brought against fans as "destructive and hypocritical," the musicians take a stand against litigation and excessive statutory damages, affirming their opposition to the recording industry association's legal assault on alleged pirates:

Artists do not want to sue music fans. The labels have been suing our fans against our will, and laws enabling these suits cannot be justified in our names. We oppose any copyright reforms that would make it easier for record companies to do this. The government should repeal provisions of the Copyright Act that allow labels to unfairly punish fans who share music for non-commercial purposes with statutory damages of $500 to $20,000 per song. ... If there is a threat to Canadian artists, it is not p2p downloading or sharing music but lawsuits brought by the recording industry against our fans.

The CMCC also speaks out against DRM, which is characterized in the policy paper as "risky and counterproductive." The CMCC insists that DRM technologies erode Fair Use rights and increase the recording labels' control at the expense of consumer freedom. Citing the Sony rootkit fiasco, the CMCC points out that "[t]he use of digital locks is decreasing consumer confidence in entertainment products and leading to resentment of the music industry as a whole." Advocating the implementation of a "more flexible concept of Fair Use," members of the CMCC oppose DRM as well as laws against DRM circumvention:

Artists do not support using digital locks to increase the labels’ control over the distribution, use and enjoyment of music or laws that prohibit circumvention of such technological measures. The government should not blindly implement decade-old treaties designed to give control to major labels and take choices away from artists and consumers. Laws should protect artists and consumers, not restrictive technologies. Consumers should be able to transfer the music they buy to other formats under a right of Fair Use, without having to pay twice.

Although fans, consumer electronics companies, consumer advocacy groups, and journalists have all vocally criticized the conduct of the recording industry, this is the first time a large group of prominent musicians has articulated dissatisfaction with the attitude and policies of the major labels. Here at Ars, we frequently point out that the real target of the recording industry's anti-consumer legislation is Fair Use rights rather than piracy, and now it looks like the artists agree, but will that be enough to convince legislators?

Power to the... corporations?
Many believe that the support of major corporations will make or break consumer-friendly copyright reforms in the west. The Consumer Electronics Association has joined the fray with an advertisement that criticizes the recording industry, but not everybody in the consumer electronics business wants to promote the restoration or protection of Fair Use rights. Apple, for example, leverages DRM and the DMCA to perpetuate its anti-competitive lock-in practices on the digital music market, effectively blocking out competitors by selling music with the infamous (un)FairPlay DRM which is only compatible with Apple's portable music player. Many other consumer electronics companies use similar tactics, and can be expected to vocally oppose reforms designed to restore Fair Use rights.
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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2006, 03:01:56 pm »
Most online Canadians are "deadwood" according to the CRIA head

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1174

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After the CRIA's study backfiring and the major fallout of the major Canadian labels leaving the CRIA on top of the formation of the CMCC which attempts to stop DRM and Canadian lawsuits, the CRIA recently decided to fight back in the media.
CRIA's (Canadian Recording Industry Association) president Graham Henderson gave a speech.
He made several comments on Canada on the international front, but a bulk of it was around the WIPO treaty.
Graham brought his speech back to the WIPO treaty by claiming, "WIPO rules are by their nature measured and balanced - notwithstanding the nonsense emerging from the Deadwood saloons... Canadians will continue to steal other people's property until we tell them it is wrong" .
On the other hand, a recent additional provision was touted as a "Podcast killing" provision. While Graham repeatedly stated that nobody is stopping content creators from giving away their content for free online, he never made mention of this
During Henderson's speech, he likened Canada to "Deadwood", an HBO TV series. .

So "deadwood" and "anarchists" and "theives", sounds like this guys losing it to me, feel free to write to him if you dont like the names he is calling you and the rest of Canada.

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2006, 03:02:14 pm »
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Online Rights Canada Launches Grassroots Copyright Campaign

Online Rights Canada, a joint initiative of EFF and CIPPIC, has launched an important new grassroots campaign on copyright reform.  With Canadian musicians speaking out in favour of balance, ORC is ensuring that individual Canadians can easily have their voice heard as well.  The campaign makes it easy to write to your local MP (electronically and in print) to remind them of the dangers associated with DMCA-style copyright legislation
Source:michaelgeist.ca

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Support Balanced Copyright Reform

During the last Parliament, Bill C-60 provided some sensible approaches to copyright reform in Canada, but it also left room for improvement. Rumours from Ottawa indicate that copyright reform is being discussed heavily at the moment, and that new legislation could be out within weeks. It's vital that you tell your MP that any new legislation should be an improvement on Bill C-60, not the retreat being urged by big copyright holders. Use our new mail-your-MP tool to send a letter today!
Send a letter to your MP here.

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2006, 01:11:15 pm »
It seems some of the political entities are starting to take notice of the artists concerns as opposed to the music mafias bleated distortions of what the artist is looking for from politicians.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1180

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The CMCC (Canadian Music Creators Coalition) is making headway in the Canadian government recently. After Steven Page of the Barenaked Ladies made some Copyright Reform Recommendations and the CMCC sent an open letter to the ministers, it appears that the Coalition efforts is actually paying off in government. 

The CMCC was reportedly meeting with Canadian ministers to discuss copyright reform. Shortly after the meeting, the NDP (New Democratic Party) issued a statement. The statement said, "NDP Heritage Critic Charlie Angus (Timmins-James Bay) says the emergence of the star-studded Canadian Music Creators Coalition (CMCC) is a welcome addition to the long simmering war over copyright legislation. The Coalition is in Ottawa to meet with Industry Minister Maxime Bernier and Heritage Minister Bev Oda.

The CMCC intervention comes as the government discusses legislation that could have wide-ranging impacts for music fans, educators and software innovators.


I hope the discussions are fruitful and a third way forward is suggested that does not compromise the artists rights of those of the consumer, a fair balance is good for all .

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2006, 03:02:08 am »
I found this news story dated May 8th in Dose a small free news paper in my city I tried to find the news article on there site & tried to find the 39 page report commissioned by Heritage Canada but I couldn't find either of them , so I had to type the article instead of copying & pasting it.

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Industry Profits Up Despite Downloading

The Canadian music industry isn't just surviving the mp3 revolution - it's thriving.Since 1999, mainstream record labels have enjoyed an almost 60 per cent jump in profits, due mostly to industry business changes, according to a new government report.Technology remains the "wild card" for the entertainment industry's economic future.

The canadian music industry is growing faster then the country's economy, despite the setbacks it has faced from widespread illegal music downloading, according to a report commissioned by Heritage Canada.
The 39-page report document reveals that between 1999 and 2004 music sales decreased by about 35 per cent - but the industry's gross domestic product contribution jumped from $243 million to $387 million.
"Evidence suggests..that the (industry) has demonstrated steady growth through the 1999 to 2004 period - precisely the same period of years that have seen a significant reduction in products sales, " concludes the report, alluding to the popularity of illegal file-trading networks.
The country's four major record labels made money despite a drop in sales thanks to industry consolidation, staff layoffs and improvements in production and distribution technologies.
The study's producers included the recent increase in royalty payments to music publishers.
Profitability has not softened the industry's stance against illegal downloaders.The Canadian Recording Industry Association(CRIA) was in Federal Court in March, seeking to force Internet service providers to release information on downloaders.The request was turned down.
But not everyone in Canada's music biz agrees with CRIA's tactics.Last week, a new union of Canadian musicians - including the Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavigne and Broken Social Scene - formed the Canadian Music Creators Coalition.They oppose the CRIA's tactics od sueing illegal downloaders and putting copy-protection tecgnologies on music.
"for a very long time, we have allowed industry groups to speak on our behalf,"said Steven Page of the Barenaked Ladies." we want that time to stop." - CNS

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Situation So Far.
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2006, 09:50:02 am »
It looks like there wont be a major rush to change the existing law, also this gives the politicians time to ask for a "donation" from the Cartel perhaps ?

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1183

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Try as many sides might, it looks like Copyright reform isn't going to really happen right away. David Fewer of CIPPIC (Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic) told Slyck.com, "The government is actively consulting on copyright issues. They wouldn't be doing that unless they were looking at legislation. We don't believe the government has yet taken a position on copyright or given drafting instructions, and no one has said we are going to see a bill in the fall, but all indications are that the government is looking to get itself in the position to do something along that timeframe."

With copyright reform seeming to be a good distance away yet, it seems likely that the CRIA will have some time to get back on their feet after the six major Canadian labels left them. Recent movements in the media from the CRIA suggests that they aren't wasting any time. One critic titled a recent entry, "Protect artists - From Graham Henderson"

So far we have seen a few ideas shot down and many more enter the discussion, perhaps this time could be used to reach a compromise that is of benefit to all parties involved , including the consumer.

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« Reply #47 on: May 18, 2006, 11:00:51 pm »
It looks like the showdown is arriving in Canada folks

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1191

 
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In the letter Canada's Privacy Community states, "DRM [Digital Rights Management] is used by some copyright holders ostensibly to control access to and use of copyright works. In fact, DRM technology can be used to override fundamental privacy protections. DRM typically uses surveillance to monitor and collect detailed information about people's access to and use of creative works."

"Rather than consulting on privacy and considering copyright law reforms that would protect Canadians from the use of DRM (as an increasing number of commentators have suggested we should do), our former government proposed copyright reforms that would provide protection for DRM. Proposed 'anti-circumvention' provisions would make it illegal for people to circumvent copyright holders' DRM. Such legal provisions could cripple Canadians' ability to protect their privacy and to enjoy copyright works in private, free from copyright holders' DRM 'spyware'."

"We seek assurance that:

 1) any proposed copyright reforms will prioritize protection by including a full privacy consultation and a full impact assessment with the introduction of any copyright reform bill;

2) any proposed anti-circumvention provisions will create no negative privacy impact; and

3) any proposed copyright reforms will include pro-active privacy protections that, for example, enshrine the rights of Canadians to access and enjoy copyright works anonymously and in private."

There follows a powerful list of folks who all agree that DRM that breaches folks privacy should not be allowed, and that the law should recognise this serious aspect before making circumvention a crime.

I agree, laws that do nothing to protect citizens from illicit information gathering and serious security damage are poor tools and so are those who pass them.
 

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Students Speak Up
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2006, 09:41:13 pm »
The student youth of Canada are making their voices heard regarding copyright issues.

http://action.web.ca/home/cfs/en_alerts.shtml?x=88910&AA_EX_Session=7e6b979cd279b08397596bfd9b79867b

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Dear Ministers,

Re: Copyright Legislation

I am writing on behalf of over one-half million members of the Canadian Federation of Students.

In the next year, Parliament will likely examine a Bill to amend the Copyright Act. Students in Canada are greatly concerned about reasonable access to information and knowledge as digital technology increasingly plays an instrumental role in learning and research. Canada’s students have concerns with respect to calls from other stakeholders for legislation that would restrict access to materials on the internet and impose unwarranted and unmanageable fees on libraries, educational institutions and students. We are writing to urge the Canadian government to reject proposals for restrictive copyright laws, and to instead embrace policies that will support Canada’s vibrant and open knowledge community.

There is more to read at the link above but its great to see the younger elements of our society making their opinions heard on this serious and far reaching issue that will have an effect in the future on many of their scholastic activities.





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« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2006, 11:59:52 am »
It seems some folks like to hide the facts and mislead the public, this is the report mentioned by P2P in his post above.

http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/columnists/story.html?id=5114c251-08a8-490a-aace-f37c9c00b18c

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In recent years, the Canadian copyright industries have outperformed the U.S. with respect to growth rates and contribution to national employment. These facts are worth noting when critics of Canadian copyright law claim that Canada needs to emulate U.S. policy in order to achieve economic success.
The report's authors were clearly surprised when the economic data contradicted their stated thesis. Warning that "these findings should be treated with caution," the study reports that the Canadian sound recording industry grew steadily from 1999 to 2004, with the GDP contribution jumping from $243 million to $387 million.
Given that a 10-per-cent reduction in employment is unlikely to inject an extra $150 million into the Canadian economy, the report's authors might instead have considered the fact that Canadian music labels have enjoyed unprecedented success in recent years. With the major foreign multinationals reporting 20-per-cent employment reductions, the data suggest that Canadian record companies, who are responsible for 90 per cent of new Canadian releases, are providing a counterbalance to the multinationals' struggles.
With the economic success of copyright industries, the strong Canadian performance in comparison to the U.S., and the exciting economic growth of the sound recording sector, this Canadian Heritage-commissioned study may leave Canadian Heritage Minister Bev Oda and Industry Canada Minister Maxime Bernier wondering why there is any reason to mess with a Canadian success story.

Interesting report, I hope we get to see the final release as it has been paid for by the Candian public.


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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2006, 01:31:08 am »
The recent copright debate has artists also looking to protect fair use rights on their own brand of creatiity.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1213

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While Graham Henderson, president of the CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association) has mentioned many times that Canada needs to put in legislation that mirrors that of US copyright law, other groups such as the CMCC (Canadian Music Creators Coalition) and (now) the Coalition of Canadian Art Professionals seem to disagree directly or indirectly. All these groups seem to be passionate about Canadian art and its relationship with up and coming copyright legislation, yet they encompass very different opinions on how to protect art and the artists - a clear sign that this debate has no clear answers.

So now that this Coalition has sent an open letter, what are the points being made?

FAIR ACCESS TO COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL LIES AT THE HEART OF COPYRIGHT.
Creators need access to the works of others to create. Legislative changes premised on the “need” to give copyright owners more control over their works must be rejected.

ARTISTS AND OTHER CREATORS REQUIRE CERTAINTY OF ACCESS.
The time has come for the Canadian government to consider replacing fair dealing with a broader defense, such as fair use, that will offer artists the certainty they require to create.

ANTI-CIRCUMVENTION LAWS SHOULD NOT OUTLAW CREATIVE ACCESS.
Laws that privilege technical measures that protect access to digital works must be rejected. The law should not outlaw otherwise legal dealings with copyrighted works merely because a digital lock has been used. Artists work with a contemporary palette, using new technology. They work from within popular culture, using material from movies and popular music. Contemporary culture should not be immune to critical commentary."

Certainly, these demands by this group which represent intellectual property creators share similar concerns as expressed by the CMCC just two months earlier, another group which represents artists. The difference is that the Coalition of Canadian Art Professionals is more focused on fair dealing, or what the US version of this is, "fair use". In fact, fair use is actually specifically mentioned as an example to protect creator’s interests. At the same time, both the CMCC and the Coalition of Canadian Art Professionals reject the need to legally prevent anti-circumvention and most of them are supporting the philosophy of fair dealings and fair use

Lets see this group be ignored also, there not much cash in listening to an artists wants or needs.

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Undermining Democracy ?
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2006, 05:28:16 am »
More dirty work folks by the media Cartels intent on stealing again from the consumer.

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2006/june/12/geist/&c=1

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The Harper government's Federal Accountability Act has served as the centrepiece for bringing greater accountability and transparency to the workings of the federal government. While that legislation may have an impact, new documents pertaining to the March 2 event, obtained under an Access to Information Act request, provide a compelling illustration of the power still wielded by lobby groups.

It envisioned a meeting with the Canadian Heritage Deputy Minister Judith LaRoque, two hours of presentations from speakers sympathetic to CRIA's position, lunch with deputy ministers from Heritage, Industry, and International Trade, and a private meeting with the soon-to-be named Minister of Canadian Heritage.

The presentations lamented the absence of criminal sanctions from Bill C-60 and dismissed privacy concerns that have been associated with U.S.-style copyright laws as unfounded (last month, four Canadian privacy commissioners as well as dozens of privacy groups and academics, including the author, issued public letters expressing misgivings about the privacy impact of potential copyright reform).

In recent weeks, several groups, including the Canadian Federation of Students, the newly-formed Canadian Music Creators Coalition, Appropriation Art: A Coalition of Arts Professionals, and the aforementioned privacy community, have stepped forward to publicly call for a balanced approach to copyright reform that puts the interests of Canadians and Canadian artists first. Lobbyist-backed closed door meetings and private lunches at taxpayers' expense do little to instill confidence that those calls are indeed being heard.


It seems open debate is not the way to size politicians up for "donations" perhaps ?

I think if politicians follows a path dictated by vested interest to the exclusion of those who elected that person to office they should step down and stop stealing from the electorate they are paid to represent.

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2006, 07:22:31 am »
More valid concern from those charged to document and educate society.

http://michaelgeist.ca/component/option,com_content/task,view/id,1300/Itemid,85/nsub,/

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The Canadian Library Association is meeting this week in Ottawa and the association is marking the occasion by releasing a public letter to Ministers Bernier and Oda on copyright reform.  Representing 57,000 library staff and thousands of libraries, the CLA recommends "caution and reflection".  Should the government move on copyright, the CLA focuses on two issues - anti-circumvention legislation and fair dealing.  On anti-circumvention legislation, the letter supports linking TPMs to copyright infringing purposes and warns against the privacy implications of TPMs.  On fair dealing, the letter states that "Canadians will not tolerate a copyright regime that requires licenses for uses that are covered by the fair dealing provisions of the Act." 


The eternal fight seem to continue to stop those who own copyrights placing their selfish greed above all other concerns, surely educating our children is not something that should have to be defended against ?

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2006, 04:21:23 pm »
Perhaps something interesting here for Canadian users  :)

http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/2505

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COPYLEFT EVENT TAKES SHAPE !

The CRA’s Fall event has a name and very soon will have it’s own website. It will take place at Ryerson University’s new Student Campus Centre on September 28, 29 & 30th and it is being sponsored by the School of Journalism. It will open on the Thursday evening and run over Friday and Saturday. We have billed the event as opportunity for artists and creators to share information and experiences about working on/with the Internet. As announced in Briefings #35, it will feature an electronic salon showcasing some of these projects.

Artists and activists from across Canada and from abroad will be on hand to discuss their work and their experiments with new forms of contracts (such as the Creative Commons licence) and innovative business models. There will also be discussions touching on the key themes of IPS and general licencing, of open source and the Internet.

For discussionto be effective is has to backed by action folks but its a great part of human behaviourthat we should cherish and defend.

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Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2006, 12:25:01 am »
It seems everyone is demanding to have their views taken seriously in the ongoing copyright debate.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1230

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The CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association) has demanded and lobbied the government to adopt a copyright reform that closely mirrors the United States. The CRIA also insinuated in a speech in early May that Canadian content creators are being represented by the CRIA. Never mind the 6 Major labels leaving the CRIA incident back in mid-April, and the Pollara dispute, major interests groups have stepped forward and demanded a copyright reform that actually does not reflect what the CRIA wants. 

Over the months, one by one, interest groups have taken interest in the copyright debate and submitted open letters to the government demanding what the CRIA would more then likely disagree with.

So one thing is clear, many organizations do not want DRM inhibiting creativity, criticism and privacy. Certainly an interesting move on these organizations part.


There is a detailed list of those who have signalled an interest in this debate and they are not the run of the mill organisations that a goverment would want to be seen to ride roughshod over, more details can be found in the article.
I think we will see some softening of any proposed regulation affecting DRM circumvention and an a halt to the expected handing over even more rights to a commercial Cartel.

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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2006, 09:27:59 am »
Bad news time again folks, online freedom under attack yet again.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060627.gtsecurity0627/BNStory/Technology/home

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One of Canada's largest Internet service providers is warning its customers that Big Brother is lurking on-line, with the federal government expected to revive an Internet surveillance bill.

If the legislation is reintroduced, it could allow police unfettered access to personal information without a warrant, experts warn.

Bell Sympatico has informed its customers that it intends to "monitor or investigate content or your use of your service provider's networks and to disclose any information necessary to satisfy any laws, regulations or other governmental request."
Bell Sympatico's new customer service agreement, which took effect June 15, is a clear signal the telecommunications industry expects the Conservative government to revive the surveillance law, said Michael Geist, an Internet law professor at the University of Ottawa

Geist said Bell's new customer service agreement shows that Canadian telecommunications companies are already preparing to comply with new on-line surveillance legislation.
Bell Sympatico did not return calls requesting an interview.

Geist fears police will be able to demand customer information from Internet providers without having to make a case before a judge, opening the door wide to an abuse of civil rights.

I agree with Michael, allowing just anyone unfettered access to records of  online activity with out legal excuse is open to major abuse and is is like telling a two year old child not to steal candy from a low rack, you know that its going to happen at least once before you can remedy the matter.


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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2006, 06:03:39 pm »
A more worrying state of affairs continues here I see.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1239

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While many concerns have been raised over what was in Bill C-60, concerns are starting to surface over what was specifically in Bill C-74. These concerns come from the CBA (Canadian Bar Association).
According to an open letter, there was a concern over "a trend by Internet service providers (ISPs) to monitor or investigate their customers' communications, similar to proposals in Bill C-74 from the 38th session of Parliament, the Modernization of Investigative Techniques Act (the Bill)."

One recent article states, "One of Canada's largest Internet service providers is warning its customers that Big Brother is lurking online, with the federal government expected to revive an Internet surveillance bill.
If the legislation is reintroduced, it could allow police unfettered access to personal information without a warrant, experts warn."

The open letter continued, "The CBA is concerned that ISPs are amending their service agreements with customers to announce that they will "monitor or investigate" how customers user their services, and will "disclose any information necessary to satisfy any laws, regulations or other government request from applicable jurisdiction." This seems to be introducing a corporate or industry content monitoring scheme, without the necessity of prior authorization or oversight."

I think we can all see the concern being expressed here of anyone with a grudge and enough cash being able to gain access to records of your online activity, rather than the current procedure of a court order being required.

Moving away from the tradition of respecting the privacy of your customers could place the ISP in the role as the "morals police", I suggest they back away from peering to deeply into customers activities, before their customers back away from them.

Offline Skipper

  • Forum Member
Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2006, 06:46:16 pm »
For your interest on topic here's a recent notice from my ISP here in Canada which also has the best user privacy policy in Canada:

Greetings,

On <June 20 2006> Bell Sympatico received a complaint from the BayTSP,
Inc.. They claim that activities associated with your account infringed
copyright protected material, where this material is owned or
exclusively licensed to one or more BayTSP's Members.  As you know,
copyright infringement is an illegal activity.

BayTSP has provided Sympatico with the following details concerning the
alleged copyright infringement:

------------------------------
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID:  54037
Asset:  Star Wars - Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Protocol:  WinMX
IP Address:  **.***.***.***
DNS:  toronto-HSE-ppp4263312.sympatico.ca
File Name:  Star Wars III - Revenge of The Sith.avi
File Size:  732424192
Timestamp:  18 Jun 2006 02:21:05 GMT
Last Seen Date:  18 Jun 2006 02:21:05 GMT
URL: 
WinMX:?ip=**.***.***.***&port=6257&sip=***.***.***.**&sport=6257&pip
=***.***.***.**&user=Skipper
Username (if available):  Skipper@**.***.***.***
------------------------------

At no time has Sympatico disclosed your personal information to BayTSP.
However, at the time in question this specific IP address was assigned
to your Sympatico account (********).  Should you have any questions
about this complaint, we suggest you communicate with MPA at the contact
information provided below:


Sarah Bergman
Compliance Manager
BayTSP, Inc.
PO Box 1314
Los Gatos, CA 95031
v: 408-341-2300
f:  408-341-2399


Under your agreement with Bell Sympatico and according to our acceptable
user policy ( http://aup.sympatico.ca ) you are prohibited from using
our service to engage in activities that infringe copyright.  This
letter is to notify you that should Sympatico receive any further
complaints regarding alleged copyright infringement associated with your
account, your Sympatico service may be suspended or terminated without
prior notice as per our acceptable use policy.

For further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at
abuse@sympatico.ca.  We thank you for your cooperation in this matter
and trust that you will comply with our policies and all applicable laws
in using our service.

Regards,

***** ******
Karen Block
Service Abuse Investigator 
Bell Sympatico Member Services 
abuse@sympatico.ca

If your unaware who the BayTSP are they're the self-proclaimed Internet Police that do most of the dirty work for the RIAA/MPAA/FBI they get paid 100's of millions annually to hunt us down they're the ones responsible for the hits on MX/KaZaa/LimeWire/eXeem & others
my IP has been ** out for personal reasons
well thats how it is here anyway I'm interested in your comments. :wink: 8)


It's all out there, you just have to figure out a way to go get it!

KM

  • Guest
Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2006, 07:29:29 pm »
i had to have a laugh at that attempt at a URL, lol

Offline GhostShip

  • Ret. WinMX Special Forces
  • WMW Team
  • *****
Re: Canadians Take Heed..
« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2006, 07:30:46 pm »
I dont think I have ever seen one of these directed at a Winmx user, many are of course sent out per week to bit torrent users (200, 000 infact ), I note you also use that method.
While I have sympathy for you receiving this letter it does seem to be the usual scare letter we hear about.

I have so far only seem winmx mentioned in a Hong Kong case, involving 22 users, I took that news with a pinch of salt after remembering they claimed something similar in 2003 that turned out to be untrue, it is mostly the larger P2P networks that are targetted and in a haphazard fashion.

More interestingly, looking at what you have posted its clear that there is no proof that you in fact had the alleged file, the port mentioned is the UDP port and would therefore have been only the result of a simple search, no proof that the file is genuine seems to have been provided aside from a name in a shared folder, this hardly constitutes any kind of legal proof.  

I once again make clear here that we at winmxworld urge all users to follow there local laws whatever they are and while it is our understanding that in many countries it is fully legal to download for your own pleasure, uploading is of course a different matter and you are urged to look closely into your rights and use the winmx program responsibly in accordance with the terms of its license, the responsibility is yours alone.




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