How is the new patch coming along?

[chuck]

 Well Nooky I remember first seeing you on vladd's forum talking up how great vladd and the pie patch was at one time.Then you changed to how great km and the DLL patch is now just the Dll patch is good, so untill the next time for you to change comes ill just let your post ride.

I use a host file and a block list in my firewall on this computer and the DLL on another.First off nooky im not pushing for people to use the DLL now that KM has asked for his work not to be allowed to be downloaded,Ive never changed my mind as to what ive thought of KM's actions from the time he first crashed a chat room.And as i said if his software is buggy as you state (and i agree) then what says his DLL patch isnt as well? Just becouse you say so? Remember a few years back everyone was pushing his servers as the best, this isnt the frist time some thing bad has been found in km's software.I dont feel the need to give you a history lesson of km's work on winmx.Thats for you to do.But to only push km's Dll for use to connect to mx and to trash km's other work as bad is well i guess what id expect out of you.So nooky vladd's is good km is bad,pie is good Dll bad then km's good vladd is bad Dll good,Pie bad,now vladd who knows how you stand on that now,km's bad ,pie bad,Dll good.Its had to debate with someone that changes their mind as much as you do.

 To keep ghost from haveing a heart attack becouse i dont back down unless im wrong. ill just iggy any more post from you so have a nice day.

[chuck]

I could verry well be wrong on if nooky ever liked pie or vladd lol to be honest all i remember about seeing him on vladd's forum back then was his post reminded me of spam allways comeing in to the debate after it was over and just to keep a arguement going. Is relayy what i remember and i dont care to even to check back on vladd's forum to see what it was about. Ill just still ignore and post its best that way. so if i was wrong SORRY if i was right o well.

[GhostShip]

For your peace of mind Chuck I do actually look through many of the files that ppl claim have trojans or backdoors in them, so do many others in different camps, its not merely a case of stating "so you say" as its possible to instruct you how to do the checking yourself.

I can roll off a list of folks who have checked the dll and would be happy to state that it does what it says on the tin and little more, I have been around the block a bit myself Chuck and always found looking through suspect files a great way to reassure onself.

I suppose what I,m saying is that without you doing some homework of your own the ambiguity regarding anyones concerns (unfounded or not) can only lead to illogical conclusions, this need not be the case.

[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

Well Nooky I remember first seeing you on vladd's forum talking up how great vladd and the pie patch was at one time.Then you changed to how great km and the DLL patch is now just the Dll patch is good, so untill the next time for you to change comes ill just let your post ride.

Then you remember incorrectly chuck. When I used the pie patch, and even after I started using the dll, the only thing I did was try to be a peacemaker and I know for fact Quicks can back me up on that. That was the role I chose then because then and even now I think we all need to work together.

I use a host file and a block list in my firewall on this computer and the DLL on another. First off nooky im not pushing for people to use the DLL now that KM has asked for his work not to be allowed to be downloaded

Then by what you expect everyone to believe a hypocrit is you are the biggest hypocrit posting. You're blasting us for blasting KM, then praising the dll. Saying how do we know what the dll is doing if we think his other software is doin this and doin that. But then you use it yourself. Now unless I miss my guess here you know it's not doing anything other than what it's supposed to or else you WOULDN'T be using it yourself. It's good at what it does. We know it is, so we say it is, and so yes we make sure anyone who wants to use it can and does. Do you download on your modified hosts file, and if so can you tell me how the fakes situation is these days cause I haven't seen any in a long time?

Remember a few years back everyone was pushing his servers as the best, this isnt the frist time some thing bad has been found in km's software.I dont feel the need to give you a history lesson of km's work on winmx.Thats for you to do.

I don't need a history lesson on KM. I wasn't there and never saw with with my own eyes anything he had done prior to the dll. Far as I'm concerned the past is the past. The here and now is what to be concerned about and that's it. He did what he did back then. I didn't personally see it so I would never hold that against him. What I do see is what has done recently and what he does to date and even that I won't hold against him except to say that his actions are not in the best interest of WinMX at this time. I never used his server software so other than the WCS bug flooding the network that is all I can comment at about those at this time. As for your comment that I claimed at any time the dll was bad and the pie patch was good then did an about face. Horse shit and I think you may need to have your anal regions checked. I'm pretty sure you just pulled that right out of your ass and as big a lie as it was it must've hurt, as nowhere on this forum or Vladd's forum will you ever find me saying the dll was bad. I have said the pie patch was bad and I still believe it is. Yes I used it and at the time I thought just being connected was good enough. Then Ice talked me into trying the dll. From day 1 I saw the difference in the 2 patches, and will never promote the pie patch to anyone at any time. If a user comes into to WMW help room on the pie patch and wants help I help first unless I think that the dll really can fix their issue. I do not make changing a condition of help but I do not blame anyone who might. I think that it's their choice how they help. I believe there is enough education on how not filtering, and not blocking hurts the network and if a user decides they wish to use pie patch they do so knowing the consequences of their own actions and it is not for me say anything other than "you know what you're doing is not right", just as I have KM. I never liked KM and I don't recall ever claiming to. I liked his work up until he himself did an about face on us. It is not wrong for me to continue to like a good piece of work that he did.

I could verry well be wrong on if nooky ever liked pie or vladd lol to be honest all i remember about seeing him on vladd's forum back then was his post reminded me of spam allways comeing in to the debate after it was over and just to keep a arguement going. Is relayy what i remember and i dont care to even to check back on vladd's forum to see what it was about. Ill just still ignore and post its best that way. so if i was wrong SORRY if i was right o well.

You don't care to look back because you know it never happened chuck and it is easier to take an ignorant approach and to falsely accuse me of something on here knowing people will read it and decide whether or not they believe it is true for themselves soully on someone elses word. Now and forever I always I speak my mind. Don't believe me ask Quicks, Merlin, Ice, KM, Vladd, Nobby, or whoever the fuck you want to that actually has been in debate or arguement with me. They all know I say what I feel and I pull no punches as I have with you here. Up until your last post I at least admired your honesty and openness with your opinion. Now I could care less. Ignore me chuck because until I see differently you'll need to ignore me to survive me.

[Mick832]

Then you remember incorrectly chuck. When I used the pie patch, and even after I started using the dll, the only thing I did was try to be a peacemaker and I know for fact Quicks can back me up on that. That was the role I chose then because then and even now I think we all need to work together.

I think I can back you up on this part at least nooKy.   A page back I said your past was "..posting open and informative comments, which generally were along the lines of trying to stop the bickering between parties..."

And I still agree that we all need to work together.

(Why is a little part of my mind saying STFU to myself, don't post it, don't get involved. lol)

[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

Thank you for that Mick. And so you know I don't mind anyone being honest in their opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and far as I'm concerned to voice it openly which I know you've done also. I think I just felt a little singled out by you and I apologise for lashing out at you like I did. At least you were commenting on things I had said right then and there. I don't mind being corrected as long as it was actually something I did.

[chuck]

Poor nooky is all upset.No i dont look back for the reason i dont care.i didnt care then and even less now.i dont even use the  old windows 98 computer any more but you asked i told the truth you dont like it so so.im sure you do check out programs ghost it suprise's me that the server program of km's pased by ya and took so long to find out.as far as any thing ealse nooky said i have no idea i  never read more than a few lines i loos intrest.

[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

No chuck I am not upset at you at all now. I couldn't agree more that you don't look back and you don't really care. It's very obvious. I guess my next question is are you only posting now to keep things stirred up or what here? You say you don't care then prove it. Quit ranting at me and accusing me of what you know I haven't done, and quit ranting at Quicks when at least he is trying to do something. You don't know how to code so how could you possably know how long it should take to accomplish what Quicks and the coders are trying to do safely for the network? I know I don't know how long and believe me I want it as much as anyone. I like using the dll but I'm tired of its creator saying "IT'S MINE! IT'S MINE!! IT'S ALL MINE!!! ONLY I CAN DO IT!!". So yes I want off it but right now I can only do that if I wish to deal with fake files and the aggrivation that come with them. And 1 more thing. You don't have to agree with a single soul on this forum. You don't have to like what we're saying. There's no rule that says you do. Just remember though that people who live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones.

[GhostShip]

Chuck are you here purely to flame people ?

I have been patient with allowing ppl to clear the air with each other and make some sort of peace as only by working together will we all reach the end of the road, my non intervention should not be seen as an excuse to lay down flame bait Chuck, please take serious notice of what I,m saying to you as there are consequences to acting in an anti social manner to ferment disruption and annoyance to others.

[chuck]

 Some friends have asked why ive become so mad and to them i say im not mad im tired.If i was here just to flame ghost you would not even have to ask.Im Tired of trying to keep friends in a room from giveing up on winmx ( been doing that for two years now.Tired of not haveing a answer to their and my,When is a new patch going to come out.Tired of saying we are looseing users just to hear (We dont know where you get your info but our numbers show mx is growing) no i dont have numbers i just see people in the few rooms i go in say im leaving mx and then not seeing them any more.Thats all the numbers i need to see.
 Im tired of seeing how every one is working on a patch then hearing it cant be done so we are codeing a new client which hasnt been done many have tried never a full working client has been made. From the way its been explaned here the problem is with the protocol used by mx so a new client doesnt sound like it will fix that.

 Tired of the only good patch out for winmx is made by a person that doesnt want you to use it so there is no easy place to download it so any new users have only a host file to use.

 What ever , last nite over 10 people in our main room left and said they would not be back to mx.So after passing id's for yahoo ive decided to just do the same , winmx is what it is and its all it will ever be and thats just not cutting it.

 I know ghost youve worked hard to keep it up and everyone is working but its too little to late for many others and now for me.
Hve a good one l8r.                      (Gone)

[reef]

I agree with a lot of yer previous posts chuck and also agree
that at this time winmx is going to suffer from new users not
being able to download the only patch worth downloading (KM's patch),
freely without having to go thru an obstacle course trying to find it.

as for the part about yerself and others leaving...where to? filetopia?
1 word to that is "yuk" .... limewire maybe? not much of a community
and any decent chat from what i can remember...ares? i know nuthin about
this 1...and the list goes on.I dont think theres any out there that
can be compared to winmx

blocking and filtering - no other p2p has this do they? and hopefully
enuf new users might stumble across a chat room with dll followers
and the patch can be recommended to them and they can see for themselves
,the differences in the patches (this is how i found out about the dll
and i'm sure thousands of others too)

third party tools - i doubt very much if theres another p2p program
that has as many cool and fun addons as what winmx has to offer

Files - any file can be found on winmx if you work hard enuf at it
and spend the time

Those are just a few and you know as well as i do that theres many more
reasons that still make winmx the best p2p program out there

sure its not what it used to be but good luck finding a replacement
that will even come close to what winmx has to offer.When you do find it
please post back and let us know what this other p2p program is lol

Good luck Chuck

[Mizz]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr....all this negativity is really givin me the sh*ts you know that ?

bitch and moan....bitch and moan....BITCH AND MOAN !!!

The patch is taking to long...whats keeping the people trying to make the patch already ?  KM's patch cant be found (its right there tho) WINMX is coming to an end.....people are leaving...they dont have the patience to wait any longer....WTF !!!!

Is there anyone who can say something constructive already ?  Whilst most of you are bitching about how things arent going quick enough to your liking i can still see people coming into my room, my downloads runnng....and  a basicly happy community just moving allong pretty steady.  How about having a little bit of goddamn PATIENCE already !

Rome wasnt built in a day you know. There are people working their asses of to keep this community going....and all they get is a shitload of bitching and moaning that they have to deal with...."But the communtiy isnt what it used to be !  " BULLSHIT...i aint the person i was 25 years ago.... so ?  things change, deal with it !

Id like to finally see some support for all these people working behind the scenes...people who do it out of the goodness of their heart for our community...people who get payed only in attacks, flame and bullshit....people who could spend their days doing more fun things like have a life !! yet all they get is BS and crying on how things are not going quick enough to some peoples likings...

Walk a mile in THEIR shoes and then have the nerve to come here and bitch and moan again...then maybe you will have a shred of credibility...untill then if u can not say anything constructive...DONT SAY ANYTHING at ALL !

Im very sorry if this post is filled with anger but i am SICK of the crybaby behaviour of some of the posters on this forum. instead of bitching do something constructive for a change ! and if you cant do that ?  well i guess you then really need to shutdown winmx and let the people who still have its best intrest at heart get on with things.

[White Stripes]

i guess its kinda ironic that ive been running winmx for days on end and getting all kinds of goodies (leechammer was causing my leak problem... finally got things under control with mxm... not a mxm fan but at least it doesnt leak... at least not too much...) yet all these supposed users are 'leaving'... ? hmm... didnt notice...

also last time i checked theres this -really- stable chat platform called IRC... you should look into it sometime chuck...

[reef]

Is there anyone who can say something constructive already ?

as for the part about yerself and others leaving...where to? filetopia?
1 word to that is "yuk" .... limewire maybe? not much of a community
and any decent chat from what i can remember...ares? i know nuthin about
this 1...and the list goes on.I dont think theres any out there that
can be compared to winmx

blocking and filtering - no other p2p has this do they? and hopefully
enuf new users might stumble across a chat room with dll followers
and the patch can be recommended to them and they can see for themselves
,the differences in the patches (this is how i found out about the dll
and i'm sure thousands of others too)

third party tools - i doubt very much if theres another p2p program
that has as many cool and fun addons as what winmx has to offer

Files - any file can be found on winmx if you work hard enuf at it
and spend the time

Those are just a few and you know as well as i do that theres many more
reasons that still make winmx the best p2p program out there

sure its not what it used to be but good luck finding a replacement
that will even come close to what winmx has to offer.When you do find it
please post back and let us know what this other p2p program is lol

Are these not constructive or PRO WinMX?

"But the communtiy isnt what it used to be !  " BULLSHIT...i aint the person i was 25 years ago.... so ?  things change, deal with it !

Not bullshit....i dont know if maybe u just dont remember/dont wanna remember/or just werent around 7 or 8 years ago when the chat rooms were chaotic....people coming and goin and the chat screen moving so fast ya could barely follow what was goin on.And personally i aint spelling out any doom and gloom for WinMX i'm just stating an obvious fact that "it aint what it used to be" :p ...not for 1 minute would i say its not still an ejoyable place to spend sum time getting away from real life activites and having a few laughs along the way while the downloads do their thing.

[Mizz]

LOL i have no idea why u thought that was directed at you tho


coze it wasnt...its at all those flamers and crybabies that just keep hammering away on the same bleeding things...i never said winmx didnt change i said deal with the fact that it has and stop bitching about the fact that it has....and yes i was around back then ...its not that i dont remember or dont want to see....its that i accept that things change and we deal with it and make the best of it in the same time

[reef]

Oh okay fair enuf lol   

*hides*

[Mizz]

Oh okay fair enuf lol   

*hides*

  u can run but you can not hide !!!!

muahahahahahahaha 

[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

Mizz how many times do I have to tell you your place is to be locked and chained in the basement to all those fancy doodads and gadgets!
Don't make me break out the secret weapon again.

[Mizz]

Mizz how many times do I have to tell you your place is to be locked and chained in the basement to all those fancy doodads and gadgets!
Don't make me break out the secret weapon again.

hmmmm i never heard u call it a secret weapon before i dare you to break it out

[White Stripes]

that can definitly be taken more ways than one... ...and ill think ill keep my thoughts to myself o_o