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Well its a suprising read for many long-time mxusers including myself, users are described as "sheep" and theres even a mention of a self downloading trojaninside an updated pie patch ,designed to remove the dll from this site and winmxgroup.comWhats it all about ?Your guess is as good as mine, power over the network possibly, or spite have been put forward as motives, who knowssomething wrong.Quote from: Ghost Shipusers are described as "sheep"No, they are compared to sheep. It's a very slight distinction, I know, but an important one. YOur'e not being called a sheep, a group of people you are in is being likened to sheep. There IS a difference that matters. What he was trying ot get across was that the majority of people who use the program dont' care how it works or what it does so long as it does, in fact, work. 9 tiems out of 10, a user will take a patch that works all the time over a patch that doesn't work all the time but works better than teh other one when it does. This is because most people who use a program only care about results. This is, I might add, true. A generalization, I grant you, a gross one at that, but still true for the majority of people. It could have been better worded, probably, but there you are.Quote from: Ghost Shipand theres even a mention of a self downloading trojaninside an updated pie patch ,designed to remove the dll from this site and winmxgroup.comPlease stop with the jargan you don't understand. This statement is wrong in every iportant respect, which I will go through as follows.1. Nothing anywhere in teh log stated at any point fits the conceptual deffinition of a trojan. Trojans allow remote users to connect to your computer. I dont' konw what oyu think a trojan is, exactly, but I can assure you that that's not it.2. A quick point of tense: "contains" is wrong. What you should have written is "will contain." The important distinction there is that this is a change that will happen in teh future, and has not happened yet, so it is still safe for people to download the pie patch if you are afraid that it will delete KM's, because it won't. At least, not yet. I feel this should be changed so as not to worry users who don't read everything they should.3. Your assertion of "designed to delete the dll from this site and winmxgroup.com" is not only incorrect, but i tis also absurd, and shows a shocking lack of understanding on very, very basic principles of how computers work. Before I explain to you what is meant, I will clear up the confusion thus: it will be designed to remove the dll file from your computer. That is to say, the person who installs the pie patch's computer. I personally believe that they are wrong to do this at least without asking the user first and giving reasons why this might be necessary, but that's an argument for another place.4. The concept that anything distributed could haX0r into two different webservers, both (I certainly hope) running firewalls, find a file hosted on those servers, and manage to actually delete it from these servers is very wimsical, and also completely impossible. It can't happen, it won't happen, and furthermore...5. No one's trying ot make that happen. The comment int he log states that they should take the file off the site, grin, or something. The first part of that is quite obviously a joke, and it shows a stunning lack of reading comprehention that people could miss that. No one's seriously suggesting that anyone do that. At least, as far as I konw. Again, feel free to correct me where I'm wrong.Quote from: Ghost ShipWhats it all about?According to Vladd, it's becasue the two patches can't work together. I personally think that this is a rather brusque explanation, and it doesn't satisfy very much of anything that I'm wondering about htis situation, and I'd really wish he'd be more forthcoming on the principles under which his patch opperates, and why the two patches can't coexist. But then again, I also request hte same thing about KM, and most people who ask Vladd for clarificaiton don't do that even though KM has at this point become infamous for not doing exactly that.Quote from: Ghost Shipit seems strange that Vladd has opposed a self updating file before and now wishes users to accept his, especially as Vladd is not a programmer.I dont' see what these two facts have to do with each other. Could you please explain?
users are described as "sheep"
and theres even a mention of a self downloading trojaninside an updated pie patch ,designed to remove the dll from this site and winmxgroup.com
Whats it all about?
it seems strange that Vladd has opposed a self updating file before and now wishes users to accept his, especially as Vladd is not a programmer.
just look at Microsoft etc, would we trust or let them own or manage WinMx?
who wants a leader who considers us all "SHEEP" He and the rest may as well of called us "trailer trash" or "inbreeds" etc etc, (you can place your own favorite self insult here)
To be, lead by a team who think and know they are beter than you,
will make all future descisions for you and not feel the need to tell you unless you find out first,
will undoubtedly feather their own nests or interests at some point,
almost certainly push Mx into the pay as you go realm for their own needs etc etc
So we here at least, will no longer in any guise shape or form be aiding in any way any members or associatese of Vladds team as............well the arse*&%e shot himself in both feet with his own words and admitions, which in true polititian fashion we expect him and the rest to deny categorically in the very near future.
Keep WinMx FREE FOREVER!!!!
<Vladd> and we need to start telling people to stop using winmx because the peer caches cant handle the load generated by a few tiny packets of data...did either of them make peer caches?
Well, someone in PIE team wrote a peercache, you know?When did vladd say that peercaches can't handle the load of a "few tiny packets"?
This is a legitimate complaint, however i Think that KM is more guilty of this than Vladd and Co. are. At least when Vladd hosts a meeting he shows it to everyone. What about k... oh that's right, he doesn't even have colaberators to bounce stuff off of, he just goes and does things.
ccording to Vladd, it's becasue the two patches can't work together. I personally think that this is a rather brusque explanation, and it doesn't satisfy very much of anything that I'm wondering about htis situation, and I'd really wish he'd be more forthcoming on the principles under which his patch opperates, and why the two patches can't coexist. But then again, I also request hte same thing about KM, and most people who ask Vladd for clarificaiton don't do that even though KM has at this point become infamous for not doing exactly that.
