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Offline Blitzen

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Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« on: May 29, 2010, 02:37:03 pm »

http://torrentfreak.com/hurt-locker-makers-sue-5000-bittorrent-users-100529/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29

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A few weeks ago the makers of the Oscar-winning movie Hurt Locker indicated that they would sue tens of thousands of U.S. BitTorrent users. In a classic ‘pay up or else’ scheme, the first 5,000 victims have now been officially reported to court. If ISPs cooperate these downloaders can expect a settlement request in their mailboxes soon. :nerd:


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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 03:12:09 pm »
just goes to show, all the dummies that think WinMX should go to using a torrents style protocol are stupider than some...

And that at least one MX user(?) must be bored to keep spamming the boards with such doom-and-gloom stories instead of constructive stuff
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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 03:18:07 pm »
and all this after 'cheating' and getting banned from the oscars and then throwing a gradeschool level temper tantrum at someone who was boycotting all films backed by the 'hurtlocker' producer.... ....all this for a film that many reviewers consider isnt really all that great (it won an oscar purely on the 'ass kiss' factor in its apologies).......

disclamer: ive never seen the film so i have no personal opinion of its content.... the irony of this BS is that i never plan to view rent or even download the thing.... the boingboing article (i have no link to it ATM .... can someone help on this?) that has the temper tantrum also has a list posted by a user of other films the producer backed.... ...IMO they should all be boycotted...

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boingboing article; http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/18/voltage-pictures-pre.html

zeropaid article that pointed to it; http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89171/hurt-locker-producer-throws-temper-tantrum-at-critic/

Offline Blitzen

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 03:21:27 pm »
@ bluey

Its news !!!!!!!!!!  i do not see you making such comments when dabees  makes simular posts ffs...............  go look at some 3 year old threads  if this section is only for dabees to post then make it so.

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 03:21:34 pm »
@bluey; the mx hashing has a tendancy to mess up on files over 50mb so if transferring movies use .rar (or similar archiver) with a 'recovery record' added to make sure things get through (only full workaround for the mx 'hash stretch' problem that i can think of that doesnt involve modifing the client)....

Offline Bluey_412

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 03:25:24 pm »
Fair enuf, Stripes, altho I personally have had no such troubles, only dummies that share oversize files...
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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 03:34:12 pm »
@bluey even before the shutdown ive had problems with files over 50mb regardless of filetype... only thing that made it intact was zip simply due to its redundancy checks (unexpected end of archive or CRC errors let me know it didnt make it... the fix was to delete and redownload)... now we have rar that can add more error correction redundancy so no redowns are needed...

this is just from personal experence with mx over the years.... by and far it doesnt reflect the whole picture... but if you hear a glurp in an mp3 or a video that has a missing/corrupt handfull of frames i'll give you 2 guesses what went wrong ;)

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 03:37:27 pm »
Good and useful to know, matey...

but then again, i have had other issues with losses in quality...
people with shitty cheap soundcards ripping mp3's that sound badly distorted...
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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 03:51:57 pm »
comment posted by 'anon' re: the boing boing article of all of the movies for those who are really serious about boycotting this company;

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Anon • #73 • 3:07 PM Tuesday, May 18, 2010

I didn't download the movie, haven't seen it, don't plan to.

But for those who want to avoid the company, here's some new pictures from Voltage Pictures followed by some older ones.

New Titles

20 Funerals (Drama)
Abandoned (Thriller)
Born to Raise Hell (Action)
Company You Keep, The (Thriller)
Faces in The Crowd (Thriller)
Game of Death (Action )
Good Doctor, The (Thriller)
Hybrid (Action)
Leverage (Action)
Mr. Nobody (Thriller)
Once Fallen (Crime/Action Drama )
Sacrifice (Thriller/Action)
Transylmania (Comedy)
Tucker & Dale vs Evil (Comedy)
Whistleblower, The (Thriller)


Completed Titles

100 Feet (Supernatural Thriller)
A Christmas Wedding (Comedy)
Abominable (Sci-Fi)
About a Girl (Coming of Age Comedy)
Across the Hall (Thriller)
After... (Thriller)
Alienated (Dark Comedy)
Ape, The (Comedy)
Blank Slate (Thriller)
Call of the Wild 3D (Family/Adventure)
Canone Inverso (Drama)
Dangerous Man (Action)
Dead & Breakfast (Comedy/Horror)
Dead Heist (Action/Horror)
Deceit (Thriller)
Devil's Tomb, The (Action / Super-Natural Thriller)
Emile (Drama)
Fire and Ice: The Dragon Chronicles (Sci-Fi/Adventure)
Flyboys (Action / Adventure)
George A. Romero's Survival of The Dead (Horror)
George A. Romero's: Diary of the Dead (Horror)
Greta (Teen drama)
Heavens Fall (Drama)
Homecoming (Thriller)
Hurt Locker, The (Action / Adventure)
Keeper, The (Action)
Legend of Lucy Keyes, The (Supernatural Thriller)
Librarian: Curse of the Judas Chalice, The (Action / Adventure)
Librarian: Return to King Solomon's Mines, The (Action / Adventure)
Love N' Dancing (Music / Romance)
Malibu Shark (Sci-Fi)
Mammoth (Sci-Fi)
Mutant Chronicles, The (Sci-Fi)
My West (Comedy/Western)
Odysseus & the Isle of the Mists (Action / Adventure)
Open Graves (Supernatural Thriller)
Payback, The (Thriller)
Penny Dreadful (Horror)
Personal Effects (Love Story / Drama)
Phoebe in Wonderland (Drama)
Quiet, The (Drama)
Riddles of the Sphinx (Action/Adventure)
Ruslan (Action)
Seventh Moon (Thriller)
Severed (Horror)
Sisters (Thriller)
Sky Kids (Family)
Spread (Comedy)
Thaw, The (Thriller)
Tortured (Thriller)
Triangle, The (Sci-Fi)
Tribe, The (Adventure / Horror)
Tripper, The (Horror/Comedy)
Undead (Comedy/Horror)
Vampires Anonymous (Comedy)
Warbirds (Sci-Fi)
While She Was Out (Thriller)
Who Killed the Electric Car? (Documentary)

NOTE: LIST NOT VERIFIED

Offline Bluey_412

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2010, 03:57:02 pm »
just the titles make most of 'em sound like B-grade or even C-grade junk...
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Offline Blitzen

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 06:42:09 am »
In a follow up to this article

http://torrentfreak.com/piracy-will-earn-hurt-locker-more-than-the-box-office-100530/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29

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Thomas Dunlap, a lawyer at the US Copyright Group USCG, earlier said that in the Hurt Locker case they could pursue tens of thousands of users. Let’s be careful with our estimate and assume that some 20,000 BitTorrent users will eventually receive a settlement letter in the mail. Of these, half will choose to pay the $2,500 without complaining, a number that seems to be fair based on the results of similar schemes.

If the above scenario becomes reality, The Hurt Locker would make $25 million in settlements alone in the coming months. This number could of course go much higher, as thousands of people are still downloading the movie every day.

With this $25 million the film makers would have collected more money from BitTorrent users than they did from U.S. movie theater visitors. Despite the recognition from Academy members and the huge success among downloaders, the U.S box office revenue has been relatively low at $16.4 million.



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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 07:00:44 am »
Typical, you make a crap film and then make your money up by sueing p2p users.  :gum:

Offline Bluey_412

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2010, 07:25:02 am »
I wonder when Birdman/Blitzen will stop thinking we care about his paranoia...
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Offline Blitzen

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2010, 07:33:47 am »
Bluey wtf do you have to bother posting ?????   you offer nothing and this is news its fact not paranoia people like to know whats going on in the REAL world. It is about time someone here had a word in your ear for trying to stir flame wars.................

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2010, 07:36:39 am »
Bluey I think you made your views known previously as regards  Blitzen ........ enough is enough. Blitzen is entitled to post and has done so on a subject that is of interest to some of our users.

Offline Blitzen

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2010, 07:49:49 am »

I personally hope this scam does not bare any fruit for the hurt locker producers as if it does i could see many more following suit, i feel for the little old lady who may recieve such a demanding letter because someone has been using her wireless connection without her knowing and she pays up part of her life savings :(

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2010, 09:15:56 am »
All the more reason for folks to know their rights and not allow extortionists to prosper from their ill thought out activities.

This site provides UK folks with much useful advice and I,m sure some of it will help US folks too in general terms.

http://beingthreatened.yolasite.com/

And please do get a copy of this helpful handbook  :-D

http://www.beingthreatened.com/resources/The-Speculative-Invoicing-Handbook.pdf


Offline Blitzen

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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2010, 02:12:34 pm »

Further developments in this matter as the first 700  ips are revealed

http://torrentfreak.com/ip-addresses-of-first-hurt-locker-victims-revealed-100609/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29

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The first batch of IP-addresses (copy below) has now been submitted to the Court, linked to customers of over a dozen US Internet providers. Besides the IP-address and the time when the alleged infringement was recorded the document reveals very little evidence. It is unclear from the current details what file was tracked and whether the evidence gathering techniques will stand up to scrutiny.

The D.C District Court will now have to decide whether or not the ISPs of the alleged infringers will be ordered to hand over the personal information of the users associated with the IP-addresses. If this happens, the customers who are identified will receive a settlement offer of $2,500. Through this scheme, the USCG and Hurt Lockers’ makers hope to collect millions of dollars in revenue, beating their box office earnings.


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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2010, 02:26:34 pm »
Anyway, why are we supposed to be concerned by whats happening to a bunch of Bit Torrent users?
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Re: Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2010, 03:04:14 pm »
Anyway, why are we supposed to be concerned by whats happening to a bunch of Bit Torrent users?

Did you really just say that? Surely you are joking right?

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