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Offline GhostShip

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UK ISP Virgin Media Sounds Alert
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:48:26 am »
Heads up folks !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40371373

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Virgin Media has told 800,000 customers to change their passwords to protect against being hacked.
An investigation by Which? found that hackers could access the provider's Super Hub 2 router, allowing access to users' smart appliances.

A child's toy and domestic CCTV cameras were among the vulnerable devices. Virgin Media said the risk was small but advised customers using default network and router passwords to update them immediately.

The study, carried out in conjunction with ethical security researchers SureCloud, tested 15 devices -of which eight had security flaws.

In one case a home CCTV system was hacked using an administrator account that was not password protected. Hackers were able to watch live pictures and in some cases were able to move cameras inside the house.


Same old flaws different day eh  :whistle:

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Re: UK ISP Virgin Media Sounds Alert
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 10:07:56 am »
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CCTV system was hacked using an administrator account that was not password protected.

this sounds like an IoT user who didnt RTFM ...

routers and modem/router combo devices rented or sold by ISPs should disallow internet access until a password is set... if nothing else it would be a layer of protection against cheap IoT devices and obsolete OSen...

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Re: UK ISP Virgin Media Sounds Alert
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 06:22:43 am »
Terminal apathy seems to set in when its time to set up a router  :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40382877

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A weakness that left thousands of Virgin Media routers vulnerable to attack also affects devices by other providers, security experts suggest.
Virgin Media's Super Hub 2 was criticised for using short default passwords that could easily be cracked by attackers.

But experts raised concerns that older routers provided by BT, Sky, TalkTalk and others were also at risk. They recommend users change their router password from the default.


I wonder what time next year we will read about this problem again ?




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Re: UK ISP Virgin Media Sounds Alert
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2017, 06:20:24 am »
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Terminal apathy seems to set in when its time to set up a router  :lol:

O_o ..... gotta be kidding me... its simple.... connect lan, set wifi pass, set router pass, connect wan, enjoy internet..... ...only have to do it once too...

...then again every winter the local news has a story about someones house burning to the ground because of a space heater... and even the cheapest of heaters has many warnings and usage instructions embossed onto the unit itself...

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Re: UK ISP Virgin Media Sounds Alert
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 10:36:41 pm »
People don't realise the danger they put themselves in when they stick this equipment online. We all know because we're technologically literate but the average person sees WiFi like magic. My own wife once asked me if she would be able to take her laptop to a friends house and receive our WiFi signal there.. several miles away.

Average joes just don't "get" it. And really should they have to? - It is my opinion that we have already enough things to worry about in our daily lives from being able to cook hundreds of meals, learn to drive, learn to operate all the appliances. All things we just take for granted like knowing how to use an elevator/lift. At some point you have to just defer to others.

How many of us knows how to make a candle from scratch? or churn butter? - At some point we said let someone else worry about it, we'll just buy those things in a shop and there are regulations in place to make sure that the butter we buy isn't contaminated with ecoli etc

This same sort of thing needs to be done with technology. Companies like Virgin Media that put out devices must have a baseline of security that anyone can buy it, plug it in and be secure from day one.

My company several years ago produced a home hub for a saudi ISP and in ours we generated a random password the very first time you powered it on and it was presented to the user using a captive portal the first time they opened a web browser. As soon as that message was displayed to a user the WiFi password system was setup on the router automatically.

The screen said to the user, this is your WiFi password, save it somewhere and use it on all your devices. Captive portals like that are not new technology. ISP's and general internet connected device manufacturers are so incredibly lazy it's frustrating to see them put in such little effort.

<- End of my rant lol

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