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Offline GhostShip

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Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« on: July 23, 2007, 01:22:04 pm »
I read this article and it seems rather too tame.

http://www.slyck.com/story1545_LimeWire_Interview

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Slyck.com: Many are concerned about the ongoing litigation between LimeWire and the music industry. If possible, could you tell us if any progress been made in resolving this conflict?

LimeWire: I'd like to comment on the litigation, but, as you suggest, I'm sorry that I can't. What I can say is that, although the lawsuit is unfortunate, we're confident in our position and optimistic about the eventual outcome.

We're most interested in ending this destructive conflict. What's happening in peer-to-peer and at LimeWire right now represents a unique opportunity for the record industry, and I think some people in their organizations can see this.

This doesn't mean shutting down. The record industry has a good track record of shutting down peer-to peer providers, closing Napster, Aimster, Grokster, iMesh, BearShare, eDonkey, WinMX, i2hub and others. This has done nothing to reduce overall peer-to-peer use, however. Shutting down one service merely fragments and shifts the user base to other services. Many now are overseas, open source, and don't even exist as a business entity. Tens of thousands of lawsuits against individuals haven't slowed the adoption curve of peer-to-peer, either. They've only alienated the fan base. The music industry must find a way to reach and embrace these music consumers. Litigation isn't a good digital business model.

It also doesn't mean selling out. The record industry's recent experiment with iMesh demonstrated that quickly forcing a user base of any size to a fundamentally different service doesn't work. Prior experiments with Napster and eDonkey showed that hard filtering scatters users just as quickly. The solution must preserve the core user experience.

Through all this, peer-to-peer continues to grow. None of the tumult of the industry, none of the shutdowns, none of the conversion plans, none of the filtering, not lawsuit upon lawsuit upon lawsuit, have shaken that growth curve. In the end, it is the users--not the music industry, not LimeWire, and not the courts--who will determine what works and what doesn't. The users are in control. The music industry needs to work to understand and monetize peer-to-peer consumer behavior, not block it.

This means beginning a process of market experimentation. It means working together to build the future that's going to come whether we build it now, or others build it later: a future that includes peer-to-peer and commercial services, and keeps the user in control.

The Limewire spokesperson then goes on to explain how they have opened a store to allow purchases of music from the cartel, combining this as well as the already well known filtering Limewire already has in place, are we going to see just a few more steps and then a settlement of the litigation ?

Whats not well known is that Limewire has been hiring new staff from the recording industry ranks, often the sign of a sell out or back door deal.

Offline SamSeeSam

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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 06:11:55 pm »
too bad :S

For any p2p to end/ join hands with the cartel is sad....

well it might mean more users back to winmx though :P

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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 10:50:42 pm »
yea to redistribute all there trojans & viruses they picked up whilst they was there
      

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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 02:50:31 am »
[UPDATE]

It looks like I was on the money folks.

http://www.p2p-blog.com/item-337.html

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Limewire chairman Mark Gorton had a bad day on Tuesday. Gorton appeared in front of the Committee for Oversight and Government Reform to talk about P2P safety and leaks of classified information on file sharing networks.

His prepared statement also offers an interesting twist on the old fingerpointing game. Gorton told the Committee that ISPs should be forced to take a tougher stance against sharing of unlicensed content. From his statement:

"Internet Service Providers, ISP’s, are a unique point of control for every computer on the Internet. Universities frequently function as their own ISP’s, and a handful of universities have implemented notice based warning systems that result in the disconnection of users engaged in illegal behavior who ignore multiple warnings. These universities have sharply reduced child pornography and copyright infringement on their campus networks. Similar policies could be mandated for all ISP’s in the United States. "

Gorton goes on by saying that the US Congress should pass laws to force ISPs to enforce copyright. This sounds like a dangerous idea to suggest - especially in times where politicians and lobbyists are pushing for government-mandated P2P filters on the ISP level. Granted, Gorton only wants ISPs to cut off repeat offenders.


Where have we heard these unfounded claims before folks, yes thats right from our friends at the Cartel.
It seems that limewire is now trying to point to the policing and general undemocratic spying on of all P2P users by their ISP companies on whom limewire want to deflect any blame or potential liability because they dont want to be sued into the stone age by the music mafia, given a choice I would rather lose limewire than my traditional and legal rights to privacy. 

Somethings starting to stink over there Mark.

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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 08:39:36 am »
I never liked Limewire. To me it is the worst RAM hog I have ever seen. I've tested it with different amounts of RAM and it ran slower than hell most because it uses Java.  Plus you find more viruses on there and they're harder to spot

Here it's a lot easier to tell which files not to d/l
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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 07:39:57 pm »
to be honest, years ago kazza was good, then it was a major virus station like over night, limewire was clean, now that is the same,
im thinking, they will not close limewire, they will only allow it to stay up if they can flood it with more viruses & trojans,
then its "serves you right for downloading when you could have paid for it and been safe"



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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2007, 03:13:48 pm »
I would like to state on these p2p's and all I have tried a few and winmx is the only I have NEVER ever gotten any kind of virus or trojan from! Kinda makes you think huh? ;)
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Re: Are Limewire Getting Ready To Sell Out ?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 04:32:34 pm »
There will be virus and trojans in any p2p program that you use. It's not the p2p program that is to blame however. It's the script kiddies, goons of the RIAA/MPAA, and people who just download and then upload without ever taking the time to check their files for virus or trojans. Script kiddies are just malicious, they will always be that way whether it is them destroying a website, crashing a chat room, or uploading files to a p2p that contains harmful code. They do this simply for the thrill and because they think that it makes them look l33t or smart. The goons of the RIAA/MPAA try to flood the p2p's with fake files that contain "white noise" or worse in order to discourage people from using p2p's. The third group is probably the worst of the lot, it is comprised of users who feel a need to show huge numbers of downloads, they think this will make them accepted in the p2p community, "Hey, look at me, I've got 10.000 files listed", the thing is that they don't take time to check their files to see if the files contain virus or trojans that could be harmful to other users. Run a good scanner, check your files as you download, check them before you upload them. Be a responsible member of the community and help eliminate "fake files" and "virus or trojan bundled files". Make sure that the files that you upload are clean and complete. The p2p program is only as good as the users who share the files. I don't know if they still do it or not but Limewire used to warn of corrupt files and would ask you whether or not you wanted to continue downloading the file. Remember everytime that you download a file you are "buying a pig in a poke", you more than likely don't know the person you are downloading from and you have only their word that the file you are downloading is what it appears to be. Download and use programs such as Sygate On-line Scanner (SOS), Spybot Search & Destroy, A2 Squared Free Scanner, HiJackThis, and Kerio Firewall free edition. These free programs will help your computer run virus and trojan free. In this way you can help to reduce the number of bad files that are being shared on all p2p's.
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