when will winmx die? TAKE A GUESS!

[Cerebral]

so when will winmx die i bet its in 4 years

if anyone thinks it wont die then your living in a dreamworld

so anyone else want to take a guess when will winmx die?

[Lagerlout666]

NEVER  because people who love it so much like myself and many other's will always strive to fight for its existance. dont be so depressing CA, but if your talking about throttling i can say disscussion has already half began on this topic, So what are your reasonings for thinking it is going to die in 4 years?

[']['affy]

if u feel that way ca move on to something else. plenty other p2p out there

[]-[êll.Ôñ.ËÀR'][']-[.]

so when will winmx die i bet its in 4 years

ummm no idea when or if

if anyone thinks it wont die then your living in a dreamworld

everything that lives will eventually die or evolve so no great shock at that statement (so no dreamworld here)

so anyone else want to take a guess when will winmx die?

Are you running a book or is this just a hypothetical question ?

Why such negativity Cerebral ?   The bottom of your posts campain for open source .... what would be the point if it is to die anyway?

[GhostShip]

The good news is that even as we discuss things here others are working on plans for the future to keep mx or at least the community together, Sir Moon is working on his client in a slow but steady fashion and I,m told at least one other group is tinkering around with plans for creating yet another client, both of those projects are likely to work with linux and hopefully both be open src so whilst we may reach a stage where the actual main client will die a death we can at least look forward to a legacy of clients buit on the basic WPN structure that has served so well over the years, with of course some improvements and updates thrown in, I for one am confident "something" will arise in the next year or two to challenge mx for the crown of primary network client.

To support some of this I have already opened a WPN development forum recently for folks wishing to exchange information with other programmers, so while all is quiet here, the wheels are turning for the future at least from this side of the fence.

[Mick832]

WinMX will die, but the filesharing community will not.   Hopefully we will slowly move on into different programs, maybe one a replacement for WinMX, but keeping some of the old friends we have made on here and meeting new people.

The first group of people I met on WinMX I probably only keep in contact with one now.    But I have met a whole lot more since then.   The program dies, and the community moves on and grows stronger.   How many users now mainly use torrents and have met new friends on torrent forums and torrent website chat?

[Scyre]

I don't take CA's comment as being negative. I see it as realistic.
Nothing lasts forever, even winmx.
But again, I agree that the community will survive, and I am happy to hear Ghosts post on the issue. I think that in a few years we will have moved to a newer client or program, but I see it as a transistion community wide, and not as a mass exodus lol.

It will most likely be a smooth changeover that the community will embrace, as long as the chat portion supports just as much fluidity as winmx does currently. That, after all, IS the community. The chat rooms, and the ability to meet and group together in like interests.

But one thing will need to be: a good solid client that EVERYONE is on board with and at least the majority trusts. Then through word of mouth, we will grow in numbers, and even the most skeptical will eventually change over.

CA, I would say with the current client, you are probably pretty close on the remaining life. If we don't have an alternative by then, we are in big trouble lol.

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[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

I saw this thread when CA first made it and have been thinking about that question ever since. There's really no way to make a guess on it and be close unless you just get lucky. There was a time a few months ago I would've said maybe 4 years but in all honesty it could last much longer. What does WinMX need to run? Answer: an operating system. Will linux change so much in 4, 6, or 8 years that WinMX will no longer work on it? The newest Windows operating system to be released soon will likely present some compatibility issues but most likely it will still run on it. That aside you're still looking at Win 98, Win2K, WinXP, and Win Vista as very functional operating systems. XP is getting a new lease on life soon with XP SP3 so it could be around for another 10 years for all we know, depending on Microsoft's willingness to continue to support it. Win 98 was meant to be gone years ago yet lots of people keep it hanging on. Win2K by far in so many user's eyes is still the best Windows operating system ever released and it refuses to go down without a fight and as far as I know Microsoft is still supporting it.

And then there is still the WinMX community. We are a defiant and strong group. If you think about the last 2 and someodd years this community as a whole has worked as one to ensure that WinMX not be forced into the dirt to die its death. As a whole, whether seperate in ideas, or hand in hand we have made sure the world knew we weren't going anywhere. Think that can go away in 4 years?  

[White Stripes]

@nooky

95 can be updated (install IE5... the components needed to run winmx on 95 install with IE5) to run it and vista has the win32 api (albeit a bastardised version of it) installed as a subsystem so as long as there is a win32 api winmx will run...

and yes 2k is still being supported... but support for it stops sometime in 2010 ... hopefully by that time reactos ( www.reactos.com ) will be stable enough to step up in its place... (im not upgrading to XP so 2k is the newest version of windows i will personally make use of)

as an aside... has anyone tried (succeeded?) in getting winmx to run on windows 3.1 (you will need to install the win32s extension to get part of the win32 api and the latest version of calmira to get long filename support [yes win3.1 can be made to support LFN] and IE version 5 to get the mshtml and other .dlls winmx likes...)... im all ears to anyone that gets this to work...

[Bearded Blunder]

you'd also need winsock2 support.. which can't be added to any windows version prior to 95a that i'm aware of.. & ie5 for win 3.x / nt3.5x is a 16 bit version.. which leaves out much of the support that the 32 bit version adds.. 95 can be updated manually too.. you need to add winsock2 for 95a & "a version of IE" for the update bar, if memory serves me, win 95 OSR2 will run mx natively.. although it's been a long time.. but the winsock update can still be found if not.. & mx works just fine with ie4 if this is applied.. but no matter what you're stuck unless you can update winsock to winsock2

[White Stripes]

ive run winmx without the winsock2 update and it worked fine...

as far as the 16/32bit mix of .dlls it didnt matter in win95 (quite a lot of even windows 98 is still 16 bit code) so theoretically it shouldnt matter in windows 3.1 (???)

[Bearded Blunder]

if you say so.. i just know i needed to install the winsock update on 95 to make it work when i was installer testing

[White Stripes]

* Silver Stripes needs to setup an old 486 or find a 16bit pcmcia nic for the 486 win95 laptop he already has to see what needs to be installed (peice at a time) to get winmx to run and connect....

anyone out there have a 'xircom creditcard' 16bit pcmcia nic?

[Cerebral]

ok.............
first i want to apologize for this thread there is no ascuse for it
im sorry for any one i offended
i love the winmx community it gave me great memories
it also opened my eye's to lots of things


the only reason i think i posted this is out of a anger spree....
i was just pissed off at a lot of things and i usually take my anger out on a lot of people

[SamSeeSam]

the thread is over 2 months old anyways

Cheers

[kelcey2000]

i have no illusions about the death of WinMX, Im sure its out there lurking somewhere and its just a matter of time, the reason for its untimely death will be the bickering over ownership of and nothing else. Everyone wants to sit at the top and in the mean time things are turning to crap but thats not intresting enough or atleast thats how it appears to be at the moment. There is fighting and bickering over ownership and use of patches and about who is allowed to release what and when with whoms permision even. so i have no illusions what so ever, WinMX will die and there is nothing that the common user can say or do about it in order to fix it.

[TheMacDaddy]

Kelcey
You really are a worried person aint you ?
What you see as bickering and fighting i see as healthy compertion...
Come on lets face it  if we all had the exact same opinions and all thought the exact same thoughts what a dull dull world this would be...
I do agree with you that there is alot fighting going on between groups and yes it gets heated and nasty from time to time
But thats the whole point isnt it ????
If you see something wrong you have to voice your opinion dont you ?
If you feel strongly about something then you have to make yourself heard dont you ?
So here is my pennys worth....
I dont think WinMx will die NO NO i am sure winmx wont die....
Now here is my reason why
Knowing both members of Winmxworld and Pie groups on a very good and friendly terms,i also know theres members within both groups that just wont sit by and let Winmx die (as you put it)
I myself for one would do everything i could to stop the fall of Winmx for ever also
So you see as long as theres both partys involved (and others i might add that work on there own)
Then Winmxs future is good (not great yet i agree) but good
And if Winmx was supposed to die then why didnt it when frontcode got there take down notices ?
Now i know for a fact that you will not agree with my post and as far as i am concerned thats your god given right and i will respect that.
All i ask in return is that you respect that this is my opinion and i would call on you to treat my post with the same respect as i gave yours...

[kelcey2000]

strangly enough i agree with a lot that you mentioned in your post. Most of it apart from the "voiceing your opinion part"  and the "make yourself heard part"

Somehow after reading most of the forum over the last few days i feel that voiceing your opinion or making yourself heard is not something that is all together appreciated on this forum. Now maybe i am totally wrong in my perception but i take as an example the way i was spoken to when i finaly did decide to speak up after being part of the winmx usercommunity for many many years. This is why i decided to not ask to many questions as i do not want to be accused of hiding behind a proxy again in order to discredit anything i have said or might have been willing to say for that matter. But i am moving away from the topic and thats not supposed to happen. So YES i think it will eventualy cease to exist, not only due to the bickering and healthy competition as you mention, but due to the fact that i feel that people who actualy have a point to make or a concern to raise do not get a say.

this however is my personal opinion based on what i have read and experianced !

[GhostShip]

I dont see such fighting and bickering that we forget what our promises have been to the folks who come here, I do take umbrage with folks who place themselves above others, that is the real point of contention.

From day one of winmx technologies closure all here have worked hard in public and behind the scenes to keep things working fine and smoothly for the run of the mill users, the only interuptions have been caused by one or two selfish people taking unilateral actions along the lines of "these are my toys and you cant play with them", thats not an attitude we have here so whilst that may cause some people problems with attempting to build themselves a "powerbase" of patch users, in the long run the path will continue to stay smooth only by folks communicating and working to create something sustainable for the entire commnunity.

Its my belief no one can be blamed for trying to ensure the smooth and efficient community "vessel" is not being capsized by a few folks who havent thought through the ramifications of their actions.
Teamwork and a community outlook should be the way ahead, those that forget this are destined to be the victims of their own demise, though this need not be the case if they act openly with the communities support.

To resolve any problem the parties to any dispute need only talk, there is no other real way of moving forward without reasoned dialogue to clear up misconceptions and put fears to rest.

[Scyre]

MacDaddy,
That was a nice post.

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