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« on: May 17, 2005, 03:56:55 am »
This article is about the rapid expansion of high qualty file sharing networks that run across Sweden.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/15/business/pirates16.php

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"Sweden has become the paradise for pirates," said Henrik Ponten, a lawyer with Antipiratbyran, a Swedish antipiracy organization financed by the movie and games industries.
Antipiratbyran said it believed that about 15 million movies were downloaded last year in Sweden, which has a population of nine million. And a recent survey found that almost one-tenth of all Swedes used file-sharing networks to download music, movies and computer programs during the first three months of 2005.
 
In the third quarter of 2004, there were almost 7,000 warning letters sent per million Swedes, compared with a little more than 2,000 in Spain, about 1,500 in Germany and only about 300 in the United States.
 
 The reasons for the Swedish situation are manifold.  
Sweden has, with Denmark, the highest percentage of households with access to a home computer in the world, about 70 percent, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
 
 What industry observers agree is the most important reason Sweden has ended up on the front lines of illegal  downloading is the rapid spread of broadband Internet access.
(Editorial notice: I object to this as what is being insinuated here is that swedish folks are breaking the law  and the article makes it plain they are not )
Sweden might not have the world's highest penetration of broadband - the kind of fast Internet access that allows fat files like movies to be transferred quickly - but the quality tends to be very high. According to a recent report, Sweden has the best optical fiber network in Europe, and multi-megabit connections are becoming both cheap and common. In parts of the country, a 10-megabit connection costs less than €20, or $25, a month, and 100 megabits less than €40. More typical elsewhere in Europe are single-digit-megabit connections.

Henri Ponten, the Antipiratbyran lawyer was quoted as saying  that "People want this service."and worse "I can say this: The work we do here is not very important as long as there is no legal alternative," he said.

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2005, 06:18:01 pm »
I,m glad to see that the Swedish goverment is putting in place a balanced deal with respect to forthcoming legislation for music listeners.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1457&date=20050519

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A controversial proposal before the Swedish parliament recommends introducing tougher laws against downloading and sharing copyright-protected music, films and games.
But, writing with fellow members of parliament Hillevi Larsson and Tasso Stafilidis, the justice minister now says that those rights must be balanced against the rights of individuals to use the material they have paid for.
"When the copyright is strengthened, it is extra important that this doesn't reduce the options to to copy legal material for private use, through the copyright owners "locking" material with copy blocking," they said on SVT.


This sounds reasonable, although we must remember who started the DRM fiasco, yes folks, the greedy members of the Cartel, who are the same folks who get a chunk from all of the legal download services, strange that ...

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2005, 05:09:29 pm »
Upon reading this small article my thoughs where "seems to be a case of paradise lost "

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/05/25/afx2055811.html

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Sweden has passed a law banning the sharing of copyrighted material on the Internet without payment of royalties, in a bid to crack down on free downloading of music, films and computer games.

The law, which was approved by a large majority in parliament, will go into effect on July 1. Those who violate the law will be ordered to pay damages.


I hope that the consumers rights have been debated in such a fashion, we will have to wait for a later report to see if the goverment have been fair and honest .

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2005, 06:13:06 pm »
do you have any more information on that story?

because from what they are implying is that you have to be given a distribution licence by the copyright holder to distribute any copyrighted material...? what about FREE copyrighted material? such as pretty much everything thats released for free, its also copyrighted...?

does that mean any swedes that send one of my free programs to a friend has to pay me royalties to do it? because that would just be... stupid

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2005, 11:13:03 am »
Well it looks like their in the same boat as the rest of us now. Just one thing though In parts of the country, a 10-megabit connection costs less than €20, or $25, a month, and 100 megabits less than €40. Thats one hell  of a consolation, my 2 megabit connection costs the same as their 100 megabit connection.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2005, 09:15:37 pm »
well, in sweden the war between the people and the corporations is pretty much over, and the corporations lost it... the rest of the world is still fighting, but with any luck the war will end up with the same result everywhere eventually :-D

(in case you doubt my claim that the corporations lost... the main swedish "anti-piracy" group is called antipiratbyran... go look them up, they havent even had a website for a while)

The scores as it currently stands:

"Us": 1
"Them": 0

just waiting for the rest of the results to come in :-D

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 08:49:35 am »
Looks like the anti piracy folks in Sweden are being careful not to break any more laws in their efforts to hit filesharers  :?

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1554&date=20050604&PHPSESSID=0b143b3d2cbd7031f754f0ac6b7263f1

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The war on illegal file-sharing has stepped up a notch in Sweden, with 200 people having been reported to the police for breaking copyright laws for exchanging games and films online.
The development marks a change of approach for Sweden's anti-piracy group, Antipiratbyrån (APB).
The organisation has sent out 400,000 warning letters in its controversial battle with file-sharers. But in response, over 1,000 people have reported APB to the Swedish authorities for breaking personal data laws by collecting IP addresses of suspected miscreants.


The battle rages on it seems, good luck folks  :D

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2005, 06:30:05 am »
I read this rather entertaining article, it was informative for a few reasons besides poking fun at the Cartel lackies.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=823

this was the local reported news variant

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1581&date=20050610


Both conclude that the data registrar has ruled private collection of IP adresses by the anti piracy organisation (Antipiratbyrån ), was illegal and has opened them up to the threat of legal action from some of the 400,000 Swedish folks who where sent scare letters.

I hope some official action is taken here,  as the label of  hypocrite is something thats easy to be tarred with and hard to shake off   :roll:

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2005, 01:28:26 pm »
the swedes just love antipiratbyran...

https://www.winmxworld.com/files/Antipiratbyran.mpg

you dont need to understand swedish to understand what they are saying to the antipiratbryan rep... which is lucky, because i dont understand a word of it :-D

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2005, 04:01:32 am »
Maybe time I retitled the thread ? ... or maybe not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4642373.stm

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Sweden has outlawed the downloading of copyrighted movies, games and music in an attempt to curb rampant piracy.
About 10% of Swedes freely swap music, games and films on their computers, one of the highest rates in the world.
With no law banning file-sharing, Sweden had become a hotbed of piracy where films, music and software were readily swapped.
But experts believe the law will change little and that Swedes will remain rampant downloaders.


It seems that the issue is not looked at so seriously in Sweden, with the possibility of a small fine for infringing file sharers to face, the detterent is minimal.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 09:36:51 pm »
In a test case for swedish folks soon to go before the courts, both sides are postering for position and await the outcome eagerly.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2259&date=20051010

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A 28 year old from Västerås will make Swedish IT history on Tuesday as the first person to be tried for file sharing. The outcome of the case will have a great impact on Sweden's battle between determined file sharers and the anti-piracy organisation, Antipiratbyrå, (APB).

The man is to appear in court accused of having a copy of the Swedish film Hip Hip Hora on his computer which he allowed others to download. He admits having downloaded the film but denies that he distributed it to others online.

"I hope and believe that he will be found not guilty," said his lawyer Torbjörn Persson.
"The evidence is very weak. If he is given a fine it will, in principle, be impossible to investigate this kind of crime."

If the court simply fines the 28 year old, it will mean that police cannot in future raid homes or request information from internet service providers about customers suspected of file sharing. The most serious penalty the man faces is a suspended sentence - which would deem the crime serious enough to justify more active police involvement.


Lets watch this space as the battle warms up...   :twisted:

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2005, 03:19:59 am »
As one battle hots up another one is lost on another front.

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2282&date=20051013

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Film and music companies can once again start to collect information about people who spread copyrighted material over the internet.

The Swedish Data Inspection Board (DI) has ruled that industry organisations such as the Swedish Anti-Pirate Bureau (APB) and record industry group IFPI can collect the IP addresses of people who spread films, computer games and music against copyright laws.
DI had earlier ruled that APB and IFPI’s methods broke privacy laws, as they were collecting personal information without permission. It had also decided that collecting information about illegal spreading of material was forbidden because only government authorities are allowed to keep registers of criminal offences.

Now, DI says that both organisations can have an exception from the law, and will therefore be allowed to re-start collecting information about file-sharers IP addresses.
“The organisations’ collection of IP numbers does not constitute an undue infringement of personal integrity,” DI argued in a press release.


It was a suprising twist in the law that has protected Swedish sharers from this kind of data gathering previously, it was only to be expected that Sweden would allow this sort of activity as most other countries do.

Time for political action on this maybe, the Swedish sharers are masters at that.  8)

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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2005, 02:04:16 am »
As expected the file sharers have a new champion  :)

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=2332&date=20051020

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Last week the IFPI, along with the games and film industry body, Antipiratbyrån (APB), was given the right to register the IP addresses of individuals found to be sharing copyright-protected material.

But any satisfaction that the organisation derived from it will have vanished this week, with the news that APB must inform people that their IP address is being registered.

Only the file sharer's ISP can link the IP address to the person. If the ISP receives a request for such information from the police, they cannot refuse it, but a few calls from TT revealed that requests from APB would be ignored.
"We don't send out warning letters to our customers on anyone else's behalf," said Jan Sjöberg, the press officer at Telia Sonera Sweden.



As I said before the Swedish users are unrivalled in the "loop holes" game  8)

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2005, 08:08:54 am »
It seems this guy was fighting a losing battle after admitting something then retracting it ..

http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1057332.php/Swedish_court_sentences_man_for_violating_file_sharing_ban

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Stockholm - A 28-year-old man was sentenced Tuesday to pay a 2,000 dollars fine for violating a new Swedish law against file sharing over the Internet.
The man admitted in an initial police interview that he had distributed a popular Swedish film over the Internet, but retracted the statement in court.

The district court in Vasteras, west of Stockholm however ruled that he was guilty.
The decision not to hand down a jail sentence was partly motivated by the defendant's statement that he did not profit from his actions.

The case was the first of its kind in Sweden after a ban against file-sharing of copy-righted material that was introduced in July. File-sharing is popular and some estimates suggest 800,000 people have engaged in it .


One the face of it this looks like bad news but readers of the posts above this will notice that it is in fact a victory for the file sharers, the Swedish police made it clear they would not stage a massive enforcement campaign without a jail sentence being imposed, the fine given here seems to make that a lost battle  :D

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2006, 07:57:08 pm »
You,ll love this folks  :lol:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28671

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Swedish file sharers have got together to form their own political party.
The Pirate Party (Piratpartiet) said that it is tired of being deemed a criminals and terrorists by the system for sharing a few measly files for no financial gain or loss to anyone.

In its manifesto, here, which is in Swedish, the party says that it is against seeing the developing world starve because the developed world refuses to share its intellectual property.

Its massage is that corporations are engaging in racketeering in the developing world and a few power hungry individuals and greedy corporate entities are infringing on privacy and integrity. Piratpartiet says that it will strike out immaterial law, ignore WIPO and WT, and annul any further treaties or policies that hinder the free flow of information. They will refuse to allow data retention nonsense based on terrorism claims or failed RIAA business models.


They got my vote, its no secret here that the music Cartels artificially hype the price of all products and pay the artist a mere pittance.

Lets be human rather than selfish, those that can pay for reasonably priced products should do so and those who seek access to software etc that could help them to be self supporting in a land that has no organised infrastructure should receive some sort of discount/sponsored support from the big corporations that refuse to even enter into helping some countries build a future market for itself.
You cannot draw blood from a corpse.

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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2006, 04:24:14 am »
More news regarding Swedens pro piracy groups.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1247

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A lot's happened since Piratbyrån went offline. Pirate parties have spread to France, and to some surprise, the United States. Since The Pirate Bay raids of May 31, the Swedish political organization “Piratpartiet” have enjoyed considerable success, as it numbers have grown to near 8,000 members. 

Although Piratbyrån (The Bureau of Piracy) is not a political entity analogous to Piratpartiet, it carries considerable weight throughout Sweden.

As one of the many websites that were forced offline during the May 31 raids, Piratbyrån nevertheless continued its work.
The Bureau of Piracy helped organize pro-piracy demonstrations in Gothenburg and Stockholm, while continuing lectures on copyright issues (basically anything that didn’t require an Internet connection.)

Unlike the Piratpartiet which seeks political office (and influences policy through such offices), Piratbyrån is more a grass roots organization which focuses on education and open debate.


This is useful information for those who are not sure of the differences between the two parties, I am sure you will all join with me in welcoming them back Online, well done folks  8)

Free speech and open debate are the lifeblood of a healthy democracy, it does after all represent in many cases, the voice of those who wish only to facillitate a more harmonious enviroment for us all by the collective pooling and sharing of kowledge, a worthy aim we should all aspire to.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2006, 04:54:56 pm »
It seems once again democracy and transparent justice is under attack by corrupt big business interests and their lackies

http://torrentfreak.com/new-law-empowers-anti-piracy-lobby-in-sweden/

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Johan Linander, a member of the Swedish parliament for the Center Party writes that a new law, based on EU directives, has been proposed by the Ministry of Justice. This law makes it possible for “copyright holders” to demand customer info tied to IP addresses that allegedly infringe copyright.

So, in effect, if this bill is passed, Swedish legislation has given room for a situation where special interest groups can demand personal information from companies to conduct their own private investigations.

As is clear here its not existing law for ISPs to hand out personal data without a court order as the EU is trying to sneak in , I do think this undermines democratic process of law, and will allow the frivolous handing over of personal information without legal right or justification.

If they have a genuine case of infringining activity, let it go through the correct legal channels is my view.

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Re: Swedish Paradise
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2006, 02:56:43 pm »
Apple wants a chance to show the Scandanavian countries why it should be allowed to rip off the consumer.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyid=2006-08-17T184914Z_01_L16621821_RTRUKOC_0_US-APPLE-ITUNES.xml&src=rss

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Sweden's consumer rights agency on Wednesday said it and other rights groups in Scandinavia will meet Apple Computer to discuss their complaint that the U.S. company's popular iTunes service breaches consumer laws.

In June, the consumer agencies of Sweden, Denmark and Norway jointly wrote to Apple alleging that customers had to waive fundamental rights, such as the free use of legally bought products, to download music from iTunes.

Norway's consumer rights agency has said one of its main concerns was that iTunes limited customers' right to freely use legally acquired products by implementing software to protect downloaded files from illegal copying and distribution.

Let them talk all they want, the fact is they are trying to steal fair use rights and monopolise the consumer, all bad practices that if not challenged will only cause more headaches for all later on.


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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2006, 10:06:09 am »
Looks like some movement here against the IP (Intellectual Property) pushing society.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1278
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The Swedish Pirate Party (Piratpartiet), led by a charismatic 34-year old IT specialist Rickard Falkvinge from Sollentuna, has released their manifesto for the national election to be held on 17th September. The party hopes the manifesto will encourage voters to elect members of the Pirate Party to seats in the Swedish Parliament

“The right to privacy is a corner stone in an open and democratic society. Each and everyone has the right to respect for one’s own private and family life, one’s home and one’s correspondence. If the constitutional freedom of information is to be more than empty words on a paper, we much defend the right for protected private communication,” the manifesto declares. “The arguments for every individual step towards a monitoring society may sound very convincing, but we only have to look at the recent history of Europe to see where that road leads.”

They get my vote  :D

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Re: Swedish Paradise
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2006, 10:11:04 am »
They get my vote  :D
don't you have to be swedish...?

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