Author Topic: WinMX and Windows 7 (Read 19921 times)

heat84 · « **on:** July 28, 2009, 05:20:14 am »

Anyone else having problems with it? I don't have a router. No firewalls running. When I do the connection test it will pass (after changing the default UDP port) 1 time and fail the next. When I disable UPnP, the connection test doesn't work at all. That's another thing. I thought the patch only supported router UPnP and not OS UPnP.

When I try from my dad's computer(which is the server in our 2 PC, crossover cable connected LAN) that's running XP, WinMX works fine.

Forested665 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2009, 03:58:53 pm »

hello heat84, if the main computer on the LAN is acting as a NAT that computer Might have upnp and the patch will act as if it is a router. Though the connection test is nothing to worry about.
You might have some problems downloading and keeping the patch installed the issues are corrected in this install guide: https://forum.winmxworld.com/index.php?topic=8134.0.html

I suggest you leave UPnP on and manually configure your ports instead of running the installers connection test. If you have further issues please post back and i or someone else will be glad to assist you.

At any time should you want live help you can always enter our help room on winmx.
The channelname is WinMX Community Patch_AE182F4EBABE
Best part is if you are having problems you do not need to be connected to join.

heat84 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2009, 06:45:07 pm »

Double NATting. I never thought of that. Would that be a problem for WInMX and not Emule or Bit Torrent? I know the cable modem is doing NAT. I'll have to check if the server PC is too. I was also gonna hook my PC straight to the modem and see what happens.

Forested665 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2009, 08:24:04 pm »

It will be a minor problem. UPnP will work for the first NAT and not the second one (the modem wont receive requests since UPnP is outgoing) It's been a while since ive had to configure a set up like yours but i beleive the fix is to forward ports in the modem to the second NAT and use its ip instead of your pcs and then forward the same ports from the second one to your pc.

heat84 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:17:32 pm »

I hooked my PC straight to the modem and WInMX worked fine. I put it back the way it was and the same problem again. Why do I have this problem only with WInMX? That is what is really frustrating me. eMule and Bit Torrent work fine. I know their ports are forwarded via UPnP. Does the patch not support Windows' UPnP? I also booted my PC into Server 2003 and tried, and the same problems happen so its not Windows 7.

I used Portforward.com's PFPortchecker and it passes any port when my PC is connected directly to the modem but all ports fail when going through the server PC. The only thing I could think of that is the problem is ICS (Called Residential Gateway Device in XP and later). But it forwards ports automatically. I tried manually but it didn't help. It seems the problem is nothing can get through other than HTTP and POP3(and 1 or 2 other things) unless its ports are forwarded via UPnP. Does the patch support Windows UPnP? Apparently not.

Yeah I could get a router and my problems would be solved.

In the properties for the NIC, on the Advanced tab there's miscellaneous settings(flow control, interrupt moderation. etc). Could one of those interfere with WinMX?

Forested665 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:19:27 am »

To be very blunt... I don't know. The patch has UPnP built in if theres different kinds thats beyond me. I will bring this topic to the attention of some who may have a better idea.

~~RReactor~~ · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:42:00 am »

turn all firewalls off

Forested665 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:45:27 am »

something may be worth mentioning

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21:43:33 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 if network is all same as should be for each station,,then needs to set server pc for the ports correctly and reboot server
21:43:40 #c11#¤#c12#STORM#c11#¤494_54551 has left
21:44:04 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 is this his network or hes at work ?
21:44:17 BurnOut so he would do port forwarding for the server and not the pc that has mx?
21:44:41 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 exactly

heat84 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:42:29 am »

Quote from: Forested665 on July 31, 2009, 01:19:27 am

To be very blunt... I don't know. The patch has UPnP built in if theres different kinds thats beyond me. I will bring this topic to the attention of some who may have a better idea.

http://winmxworld.com/tutorials/winmx-community-patch_upnp-details.html
Read #1.

heat84 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:44:11 am »

Quote from: Forested665 on July 31, 2009, 01:45:27 am

something may be worth mentioning

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21:43:33 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 if network is all same as should be for each station,,then needs to set server pc for the ports correctly and reboot server
21:43:40 #c11#¤#c12#STORM#c11#¤494_54551 has left
21:44:04 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 is this his network or hes at work ?
21:44:17 BurnOut so he would do port forwarding for the server and not the pc that has mx?
21:44:41 Ê£ ÑîÑô69 exactly

How would I forward ports on the server PC? It's firewall is off so there's nothing blocking any ports.

ñòóKýçrÕôK · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:34:47 pm »

Not to interrupt but if it's a windows based server it will still run windows firewall which can sometimes block while it's turned off.

Pri · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:31:33 pm »

Just thought I'd post to say that I installed WinMX on Windows 7 x64 (7600 RTM) and it worked absolutely fine. Patch and MXM too.

Any problems you are having are due to Router, Firewall or other network conditions.

Lagerlout666 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:37:36 pm »

Excellent, im looking forward to trying windows 7 out. albeit in a VM first.

Pri · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:12:11 pm »

It is pretty excellent. I've put some screenshots up here of the final: http://tinyurl.com/ldtlwy

Lagerlout666 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:27:24 pm »

looks pretty cool that. my machine is due a spring clean.

heat84 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:52:44 pm »

Quote from: ñòóKýçrÕôK on July 31, 2009, 12:34:47 pm

Not to interrupt but if it's a windows based server it will still run windows firewall which can sometimes block while it's turned off.

Its not an actual server. Its just a normal PC. Other than giving my PC internet access, its not performing any server functions.

Quote from: Pri on July 31, 2009, 01:31:33 pm

Just thought I'd post to say that I installed WinMX on Windows 7 x64 (7600 RTM) and it worked absolutely fine. Patch and MXM too.

Any problems you are having are due to Router, Firewall or other network conditions.

Yes, I already eliminated Windows 7 as the culprit. Its either my PC's NIC or something with the other PC. When I have a 3rd PC I'll be able to further narrow down the culprit.
Thanks for all your help. I figure it out eventually.

Forested665 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:07:49 pm »

It is most likely to do with the other pc. have you tried what nino suggested and forwarded ports to the servers ip instead of yours? if it is a double NAT the modem wont see your pc.

Forested665 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:10:00 pm »

Oh something i forgot to mention. Instead of using ICS (or whatever it is now)
You can open the network connections page select the in and out adapters and select make network bridge (may say bridge connections)

all packets that come from your pc will go through to the modem just as if it was plugged directly in and the modem will give both pcs an IP (if its NAT enabled as you have led me to beleive)
this will eliminate the server as the issue.

heat84 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2009, 02:09:58 am »

Yeah, I was looking at bridging connections. But I decided against it because the "server" PC wouldn't have internet access if I'm correctly understanding how it works. I could still do it just for troubleshooting purposes though.

ñòóKýçrÕôK · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2009, 09:23:16 am »

Quote from: heat84 on July 31, 2009, 05:52:44 pm

Its not an actual server. Its just a normal PC. Other than giving my PC internet access, its not performing any server functions.

Doesn't matter, windows firewall still can block while being disabled.

Quote from: heat84 on July 28, 2009, 05:20:14 am

When I do the connection test it will pass (after changing the default UDP port) 1 time and fail the next.

Just for the sake of asking did you by chance go into properties for winmx.exe and set it to run as an administrator? If not it might explain why you would have trouble getting t to accept your changes or why it works once and then not the next time.