Author Topic: Winmx Crashing...old fashiond...host file fix is working (Read 10841 times)

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2005, 04:48:42 pm »

Ok guys heres the answer to your Q as to why URL were changed:

GO ASK GHOST he asked the same Q to Vladd yesterday and got a full answer, i have the log.

is this just another case of you guys Q hogging? lol comon talk to each other b4 u ask over and over again, weve done that b4, its tireing.

GhostShip · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2005, 04:51:43 pm »

You obviously have emotional issues to deal with Nobby if you need more time to make your point just continue and post here I feel sorry for you now and I,m sure the folks wont mind you having a pie link somewhere if it cheers you up.

Nobby I never spoke to Vladd yesterday I sent him a link possibly but then closed the connection, please show this log of my alleged conversation.

If such an explanation was given why would I have asked Vladd on his own site the same question ?

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:05:02 pm »

Heres the quote:

"and i chose to exercise my right to quit getting my forum spammed with links of people who have done nothing but be untruthful about me or my purpose"

Just out of interest, and ofc for the interest of the users, whats your position on DDOS attacks?

Just a general question ofc

GhostShip · « **Reply #43 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:15:04 pm »

I have never seen that quote now where is this log you claim ?

Me Here · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:16:23 pm »

And that is from a conversation with Ghost?

Maybe you should make sure what YOUR team is doing and who is talking to who...

Because I know for a fact ..

Vladd did not have a conversation with Ghost there was a link posted and that is the extent of any conversations with Vladd and Ghost.

Is it your belief in continuing this thread that you will convince us its that Vladd was justified in deleting and editing posts to give a false indication of the meaning of the posters intent, and to control what information is allowed on your site ?

TheMacDaddy · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:26:27 pm »

ok i still get no answer..... ummmmm oh welllllll

and as for me ask my team??
they are not my team and i do not interfere with the personal issues
the postion i hold here i worked for (and dam hard to and am dam proud of)
i do not interfer with there bussiness because it is not my place out of respect.
i asked you nobby why vladds site took the action it did yesterday..
it was a question directed at you nobby
it was a question i asked you nobby
it was a question i excepted you to answer nobby

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:43:22 pm »

As i didnt take the action i can only guess a response.

I would say he is probably sick and tired of certain users abusing him and spreading lies about him, his motives, his friends, his team, his site etc etc

But for an accurate answer please feel free to ask him, although i doubt he will answer, as the last time you asked the Q is was on the back of a direct threat.

As i have answered your Q the very best i can (without being Vladd) perhaps you would like to comment a little on what you think of DDOS attacks on websites? Im ever so interested to hear what all 3 of you have to say on that subject. All in the spirit of honesty and openess ofc.

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2005, 05:52:56 pm »

Quote from: me here

and we dont post the same message for anyone that even has a hangnail. Folks get personalized help here...

Well as you well know the level of users unable to connect using the .dll was huge initially, we dealt with thousands of users requiring help, i wish we had a team big enough to deal with everyone 100% personally, but alas such was the amount a general fix was created in order to get the maximum number of users reconnected asap.

Perhaps the reason you get enough time to deal with each of them personally is because a huge number of .dll related issues, came through to us in V44 channel and site, had they come back here, well i doubt you coulda handled thousands more personally?

And of course much of our resources seemed to end up being spent answering certain users constant torrent of Q's repeated Over and over and over in channel, on forum in pm, in meetings, need i go on?

Now where were we with your thoughts on DDOS attacks on websites?

Me Here · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2005, 06:04:32 pm »

I have not commented on the attacks this site suffered last nite for one reason Nobby, I can not be 100% sure where the attacks came from.

Using a DOS attack on a website could be viewed a few ways.. I am not going to say I have a bit of guilt about parking my browser on a site that is refreshing pictures of Pay for WinMX site that rip people off of their hard earned money for something that is offered for free.

Using it as a weapon for spite is not ok with me in the least, and the difference may not be clear to everyone but to me it is.
Lets not forget the log of your meetings where some might take comments made there as premeditated plans of such an attack on us.

I also am wondering why your still here, you have put words in our mouths admitting that we recommend the dll, and that we dont have a link to your hosts file.. as if its some big shock to everyone while totally skipping over the fact that the censorship is what constitutes my claims that your site doesnt offer a choice.. not only no choice but also no freedom to post. If you get pissed off you simply delete move or edit the posts to your liking.. but you dont seem to want to talk about what that really means.

Now your claiming conversations took place with folks that didnt..and again you dont seem to want to talk about that...

You claim there is some direct threat.. i dont see that

Is this all just a song and dance because you CAN NOT justify manipulating posts?

GhostShip · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2005, 06:07:15 pm »

I await the log Nobby or an admission it does not exist.

Perhaps Nobby will in the meantime tell us when Vladd saved WinMx single handedly and how ?

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2005, 06:14:17 pm »

Quote from: me here

You claim there is some direct threat.. i dont see that

KM creator of the .dll you promote & part of the winmxworld teamwrote:

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I demand that you immediately remove the automatic censors on the forum, I further demand that you stop deleting and editing any post not officially sanctioned by you.

You have 2 hours to revese your censorship, remove the automatic filters in place, and go to every post you have edited and fix it and undelete every post you have deleted.

Further posting:

I guess that is all that can be done with words alone, we'll probably need something else to resolve this issue now... let the back stabbing commence

Sounds pretty threatening to me, not to you??

Then theres the matter of Vladd44 being attacked just a few hours after this post by KM, coincedence?? Maybe, i sure as hell dont know either way, its not like KM has a track record for such acts?

GhostShip · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2005, 06:29:03 pm »

Hmm look Nobby is alleging more stuff that he will refuse to provide proof of now, I know that Vladd shut his site down for a while yesterday after a quota exceeded message popped up and there was talk in Vladds room of all sorts of madness, soon after that Vladd was telling people to install the dll to find out what was going on and since then I have heard nothing except Jim saying this site was not attacked even though I spoke to him while it was being attacked asking him to help put a stop to it last night ..

Why dont I have trust with some folks ...???

For those that do not understand the seriousness of this attack we very nearly had to close the site down and that may have meant a quantity of the caches also, so you can see why we are looking into this attack before pointing fingers.

Me Here · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2005, 06:34:25 pm »

Nobby Vladds own words are that he removed his site offline.

So now hes telling you that it was attacked?

So that was his plan to remove his site, then blame KM?

I am just seeing you bring snippets of crap here, making allegations you cant back up and doing a poor job of it at that...

And further more I fail to see exactly what usefulness any of this actually has, exactly my reasons for not making the attack on this site public in the first place.

Again this started with you trying to provide information for a user, that wasnt all bad i might add, except you just couldnt resist the need to throw some gas on the fire at the end of it even double posting to be sure and get the gas on the fire. Now you dont seem to be able to control the fire you started and its quite sad now, and I thought this was beneath you.

KM · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2005, 10:12:04 pm »

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(19:33:09) KingMacro: i have a great avatar i want to put on your forum but can't because it is down, will you fix it already?
(19:33:11) KingMacro: lol
(19:33:24) Vladd44: i think i will leave it down for the day
(19:33:31) Vladd44: that would play better

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(21:50:07) KingMacro: but i assume you are going to fix it some time soon, so fix the fucker... lol
(21:50:14) Vladd44: no, i am not
(21:50:21) Vladd44: i am going to let it sit a while
(21:50:51) KingMacro: lol, why?
(21:50:54) Vladd44: goes well after your post

indeed, attacked was he... there was only one website being attacked last night, and it most certainly was not his as his got shut down for exceeding the quotas (yet again) and he then refused to bring it back online... so there was no opportunity to attack his website had anybody tried to

the attacks against this website however are a completely different issue, he effectively admitted it by telling me how the attack would be done hours before the attack actually started, not that anyone could possibly think that he had anything to do with it of course

GhostShip · « **Reply #54 on:** October 28, 2005, 10:35:33 pm »

I hope Vladd has an explanation for what he seems to be saying there KM, this is looking rather serious now that I have seen those quotes.

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #55 on:** October 28, 2005, 11:57:28 pm »

Quote from: GhostShip

Hmm look Nobby is alleging more stuff that he will refuse to provide proof of now.

I was asked to provide evidence of a threat, i did so, read up.

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2005, 12:11:49 am »

Quote from: me here

I am just seeing you bring snippets of crap here, making allegations you cant back up and doing a poor job of it at that...

U asked for the evidence of a threat, i provided it.

Quote from: me here

Again this started with you trying to provide information for a user, that wasnt all bad i might add.

ty, i can be pretty helpful

Quote from: me here

except you just couldnt resist the need to throw some gas on the fire at the end of it even double posting to be sure and get the gas on the fire. Now you dont seem to be able to control the fire you started and its quite sad now, and I thought this was beneath you.

Yes thats true, i couldnt resist it, i am but 1 user, posting in 1 thread, in a short space of time, i (without even trying) managed to attract not 1 or 2 but 4 site admins to fuel the fire. Now perhaps u can begin to see just what a waste of folks time over at Vladds forum you guys have managed to cause with your flamed threads, there were many more of you flaming over there than just little old me

As for controlling the flames, i never had any intention of control, just figured as you guys were so willing to burn with me, i would see where it went, worked out a pretty good eye opener, now i see why you guys flamed the V44 forum to hell, served a pretty good tactic of sidetracking Pie members to answering your Q's over and over and over and over kinda like a tag team with Mehere, Coal, KM, and then Iced and other all taken a turn, worked out for u in channel too.............if you cant beat em, sidetrack em, cute........

GhostShip · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2005, 12:37:13 am »

Nobby has your lameness no bounds, you cannot at least once admit the possibility that perhaps folks might not like the idea of a group deciding that they run winmx for us all might cause valid concern and annoyance ?

The users of this site have lost 3 hours of help time thanks to your usage of all the folks who have felt it only honourable to reply to your persistant lying, thanx for helping Winmx Nobby, your selfishness knows no limits.

You have now been formally warned as you seem not to have taken the hint repeat this flaming and lying tactic and you will be banned for a week as lying to me is a perhaps a small thing but playing time wasting games and abusing other users to make your silly "we are right you are wrong" point is the work of a cretin.

..Ñøßß¥.. · « **Reply #58 on:** October 30, 2005, 01:24:10 am »

Quote from: GhostShip

Nobby has your lameness no bounds, you cannot at least once admit the possibility that perhaps folks might not like the idea of a group deciding that they run winmx for us all might cause valid concern and annoyance ?

I would think "most" people would prefer to trust a team with checks and balances rather than a shady individual, who his own history dictates is a law untoo himself.

Quote from: GhostShip

The users of this site have lost 3 hours of help time thanks to your usage of all the folks who have felt it only honourable to reply to your persistant lying, thanx for helping Winmx Nobby, your selfishness knows no limits.

Amazing you see this so clearly now, but for weeks and hundreds of posts from you and others from this camp on vladd44 and in channel you failed to see just how much of folks time you were wasting. I am but 1 users posting in 1 thread over a short period of time, during previous effort from this camp there was you, mehere, km, icedragon and many more underlings, flaming, personally attacking, and asking the same Q's over and over and over and over and over, and the answers to these Q's were being given over and over and over. What a waste of time.

Quote from: GhostShip

You have now been formally warned as you seem not to have taken the hint repeat this flaming and lying tactic and you will be banned for a week as lying to me is a perhaps a small thing but playing time wasting games and abusing other users to make your silly "we are right you are wrong" point is the work of a cretin.

ROFLMFAO, after your goodself and the Boy KM just spent hours MOaning on Vladds forum about Censorship, you would now Ban me? Thats the ultimate Censorship, shame on you, but as we seem to be playing a copycat game here, i will follow the tactics you guys employed:

I DEMAND YOU RETRACT YOUR THREAT TO CENSOR ME....

<insert additional KM style threats here as i cant be bothered)

OH AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I POSTED A SIMILAR POST LIKE THIS SEVERAL HOURS AGO, IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN LOST???? damn now where have i heard people complaining about missing posts before? Im seeing a pattern here.

KM · « **Reply #59 on:** October 30, 2005, 01:57:52 am »

if you feel you have lost a post then please go back over each post ID until you find the blank one, if you can give the ID of a post you feel is missing then it may be possible to restore any lost posts from the database

I have not deleted any posts, ghostship and me_here have promised that no posts have been deleted, and the other admins probably wouldn't risk deleting any posts anyway

perhaps you forgot to click the post button? or perhaps you are just making things up to try and make us look like the ones censoring posts, when indeed there is only one forum doing so, and it is blatantly obvious to anyone who wants to pick a random thread from that forum and have a read it that posts are missing or modified in nearly every thread...

edit: just for the record, i have just gone back over every post for the last 12 hours and the post ID's are sequential, no posts are missing from that time period, and i can't be bothered to go back any further considering he said several hours ago, which to me would indicate no more than about 7 or 8 hours ago...

and this is a forum for factual information not flaming, that is why ghostship has threatened to ban you, if you want to flame then go to some other forum that has the sole purpose of people making up lies to flame with, if you have nothing truthful and useful to contribute to a thread then please refrain from posting in it.