OK Gang, work to do I guess. I am a former computer dealer so very IT literate. This is NOT a problem my end. I have tried on two PC's 2 Operating systems Vista 64 and XP 32, two ISP's Ontera and Northland, two ways to connect to the net - DSL and Cable Modem. WinMX Community patch does NOT connect as a primary from Northern Ontario in any way, shape or form without a lot of tweaking. It is even then hit or miss, more miss than hit I may add. Now the way I see it is the network on primary connections does not work in Canada, or I am missing something. And I am running out of things to blame. It is NOT my router, ISP or OS, or my settings so any idea's people? A clue is I can not ping in Vista 64 even with all the windows features turned on. Sorry I can not be of more help.