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Offline DaBees-Knees

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OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« on: March 14, 2009, 08:37:25 pm »
http://venturebeat.com/2009/03/13/oneswarm-delivers-new-way-to-share-files-anonymously/

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Today, virtually everyone is a content provider. But content distributed through BitTorrent trackers can be monitored by third parties, a fact some users don’t like. Third parties can, for example, monitor sharing and then use the data for marketing purposes. Enter OneSwarm, a file sharing application made by some of the same developers who created the BitTorrent client BitTyrant. Instead of transmitting data directly from sender to receiver and identifying them both, the OneSwarm application forwards data through multiple intermediaries, making it difficult for monitoring agents to track the identity of sender and receiver. OneSwarm doesn’t guarantee so-called strong anonymity, but claims that file sharing friend-to-friend is anonymous. For this anonymity to work, both people involved in the file-share (sender and receiver) have to be using OneSwarm. OneSwarm was created by developers at the University of Washington (the web site is a sub domain of washington.edu). The purpose of the application, according to the developers, is to share files effectively and securely while securing the user’s privacy. Obviously, anonymous file sharing could lead to more widespread piracy of music and video files. On the other hand, if users are feeling more comfortable with sharing files due to the privacy of an app like OneSwarm offers, it could increase file-sharing, opening new opportunities for businesses dealing in sharable content. The application is based on BitTorrent technology (and works on any other BitTorrent network) but has a couple of additional features like search, friend-to-friend data sharing, permissions and a web interface that lets the user watch or listen to a video or music file while it’s downloading. It has a browser-based interface, and clients are available for Linux, Mac OS X and Windows. These features make OneSwarm similar to the most frequently used BitTorrent tracker, PirateBay, which peaked recently at 25 million unique visitors and was ranked number 102 among the most popular sites on the Internet. The differences are that PirateBay doesn’t protect users from being monitored, has a huge number of BitTorrent swarms, and has become an infamous brand (due to the fact that the founders have ignored, in a rather arrogant manner, the concerns of music piracy from record companies and were recently sued in Sweden). OneSwarm has been downloaded 50,000 times during the 15 days it has been available on its web site. 20,000 of those downloads were done on Tuesday of this week. Of course, the open-source program can be freely distributed (the developers themselves cannot monitor the file sharing as the application is running on the user’s computer), so the actual number of users may be higher. The application was developed by PhD students Tomas Isdal and Michael Piatek, Arvind Krishnamurthy and professor Tom Anderson at the Department of Computer Science and Engineering at the University of Washington.

Quote "The obvious successor to Pirate Bay, and the ultimate doom of the RIAA and friends." This should get the cartel in to a panic

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Offline Daniel

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2009, 06:50:12 pm »
How is this better than setting utorrent to forced encryption?
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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 05:32:40 pm »
I have been using this and it is a bit interesting. But anonymous it isn't.

It allows you full control over who you share files with by allowing you to pick & choose people and adding them to your friends list. You don't add people you don't know.

It is built on top of an older version of Azureus as a plugin. It's just as resource hungry as Azureus and if you are already running that as your regular torrent client, it's not likely that you will like running both at the same time.

What it does is basically turns Azureus into a very private, sort of winmx-like file sharing client, without any chat.

Everything is done through the web interface, which is a page served from your local machine.

You can browse your friends files, and search. If more than one of your friends or one of their friends has the same file, then you can utilize multi-source downloading. Friends of friends files will also show up in a search, even though you can't browse them directly.

When your friends are online, you will see that indicated on your list.

Of course, it works best if you have a lot of friends, and all of them have a lot of friends, and the entire group isn't a 100% mutual group, where everyone knows each other. (doesn't work well when everyone is on everyone else's friends lists).

If you don't have a lot of friends, or they don't have a lot, then files you want are almost impossible to find, and what you do download can take a long time, especially if they are large files.

Basically, it allows you to start your own private trust based torrent powered p2p network.

So this is very different that using encryption alone & a public (or private) tracker, up/downloading from strangers.

And there is no problem with leeches, since it's not likely you would deprive your friends of a file they want. You would keep seeding till all of the ones you know that want it finished downloading. They would keep seeding till all their friends that you don't know got it, and so on, and so on.

It can all work out pretty good as long as you pick & choose your friends wisely, taking into consideration whether they know how to pick trustworthy friends too. It's not only a question of whether you can trust them, it's also if you can trust their judgment.

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 09:44:08 pm »
@app103
sounds like a less capable version of nullsoft waste the way you put it... lol..

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 03:27:52 am »
@app103
sounds like a less capable version of nullsoft waste the way you put it... lol..

I am not familiar with that application and have never tried it, so I really can't compare or agree/disagree.

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 09:42:39 am »
Perhaps you should App, Waste is a non nonsense heavily secured friend to friend network, like most ideas of this sort that seek to push anonymity this new offering trades anonymity with extra network overhead, file segments that have nothing to do with you will be routing through your machine and using your bandwidth, this is a potentially heavy drain on your resources if there are many users of the network.

I find it annoying they tag on the text "uses bit torrent technology" as though for the network type they propose this makes it something desirable, this means that if only one person has a particular file it wont magically speed up the transfer, it will be still the same old user to user type transfer but with more overhead than a direct transfer because to keep the anonimity your file segments will be routing through other folks machines thus slowing down the entire transfer process.

Unless a file is shared by multiple sources the use of the tag "bit torrent" is just a sales gimmick as far as I,m concerned

Offline DaBees-Knees

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 09:57:46 am »
Damn........nothing is perfect in this world  8)

Offline app103

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Re: OneSwarm delivers new way to share files anonymously
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 04:08:57 pm »
I find it annoying they tag on the text "uses bit torrent technology" as though for the network type they propose this makes it something desirable, this means that if only one person has a particular file it wont magically speed up the transfer, it will be still the same old user to user type transfer but with more overhead than a direct transfer because to keep the anonimity your file segments will be routing through other folks machines thus slowing down the entire transfer process.

Unless a file is shared by multiple sources the use of the tag "bit torrent" is just a sales gimmick as far as I,m concerned

The use of the tag "Bit torrent" is because they don't want to admit publicly that it's built on top of an old version of Azureus. It doesn't have the same ring. Try it & see. Every time they mention "BitTorrent technology" replace it with "an old version of Azureus" and see how it sounds.  :lol:

But you are right about the article being very gimmicky, loaded with other things besides that particular term, seemingly written SEO style (keyword stuffed). I hate what the internet has become, with regards to this. What happened to just writing for people and not search engines?

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