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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #100 on: June 21, 2006, 11:37:53 pm »
i know it's not all directed at me, but i'll comment on it all anyway even if you can guess most of my answers :-)

If i may ask a few questions to Nobby and Km or Ghostship but not Bughunter. Im not trying to be disrespctfull bug but i all ready know what you will say the  pie maggots there i said it for ya.
i'm sure he'd have something more creative to say, perhaps "fucking pie maggots"?
Is it true that the server program that was or is being used by the pie team is one taken off of one of km's servers with out his knowing?
no, they are not using my cache software as such, although the initial version of ranmas cache software was poor to say the least and was as good as useless until i pointed out major flaws that they didn't seem to notice (how could they not figure out it would be a problem to return the same invalid result 10 times?)

Am i wrong in thinking that if the pie team had been running enough servers that no matter if rock or km takeing a server off line for what ever reason the users of the pie patch would have been able to connect with no down time?
as of 2.9 they were directing 20% of the traffic to a cable connection that was hosting ranmas cache software on behalf of pie, 40% was going to rocks server which was using ranmas software on behalf of winmxworld and 20% to each of my servers running my cache software, each of my servers changed IP Addresses several weeks ago and they stated they would not update, they liked the situation of 40% to one server, 20% to a cable connection and the other 40% failing... yes, a great situation... especially when rocks server went offline so it was 80% failing and 20% to a cable connection that couldn't cope so barely responded

in fact the biggest problem they had was due to fxserver and robomx, as both programs suffer with a serious design flaw... rocks server was offline for a while with no ill effects apart from delays connecting (ie you couldn't connect until you just happened to try the cable connection) however the first time the cable connection got lagged it caused queries to fail, not a problem you'd think as soon as the lag goes it's fine... except once the cache got lagged it meant more queries failing, so robomx and fxserver would respond to that by making even more queries... which of course makes the situation worse... the cable connection simply did not have the capacity to recover itself

Do you really think Vladd is not makeing money off the scam P2P ad's on his site?
well we know for a fact people are clicking the ads when they come to us saying how they bought winmx from there, plus of course if they weren't clicking the ads so vladd didn't make money, why would he have them there? you don't put banner ads on a website if you aren't going to make money from them... and considering it costs him nothing at all to run it... (he has a single web hosting account being used for all of his websites, including a load of personal ones and friends ones etc... costing a grand total of $6.95/month... which he would be paying with or without the pie/vladd sites - making those sites effectively free)

Being a WinMX help site do you not think it would be better not to have ad's at all if you have to have ad's for some thing that is scamming WinMX users? I know i dont mind ad's but i do mind scam P2p ad's on a help site where people come for help on Mx.

 We have all seen on forums that people have paid for mx when there is no need to at all. Dont you think haveing them on a winMX help site is confusing to some users?
does it need saying again? i think it is fucking disgraceful... one thing to have ads (even winmx.com had ads) no problem there, as long as they aren't ads that go against what you claim the site to be for, you can't claim to have a site for helping winmx users with links to scam websites all over it, because that is not helping at all

Do you not think that the pie team has tried to mislead users on the DILL patch?  Just becouse vladd and the pie team do not like KM not becouse of any thing wrong with the DILL?
of course that's why, they have yet to come up with any reason not to use my patch other than "KM is evil, we don't like him so you should destroy winmx"

I dont think ive never read here that the DILL is the only way to fix your mx as i have 100's of times on vladd's forum that Pie is the only way. What has been said is its the only patch that blocks fake files.
the reason they refuse to allow anyone to even know it exists is because as we have seen, if users are informed of the 2 options, nobody at all would be using hosts files

Many times on vladds forum ive read how bad the RIaa is and How he is takeing a stand against them, But he wants users to run his patch that has no way to block the fakes? With out his patch the fake files would be gone from searches.
 Thats just a fact. Is that really a stand against the RIAA?
i wouldn't be surprised at all if macrovision released their financial statements and listed "Vladd44" under the "Anti-p2p expenses" section

Dont you think its in the best interest of the users on mx to stop the fake files?
thousands of fake results like that confuse users and make it harder for them to find legitimate files, if they can't find real files then they give up and go to other p2p networks - or worse still give up on p2p all together, this is clearly unacceptable and is the reason i added fake filtering to my patch, to help make the users experience on winmx better so that the network can grow again

Pie could stop useing the pie patch tomarrow get rid of the fake files. and if its ever needed again they could have a host file up in min.s its not like its going to change how to make a host file.

 Whats best for the users and growth of MX is being held up by ego and fear of loss of some kind of status  by vladd and the pie team.
well considering their main representative that they listen to blindly and do whatever he says had admitted he is currently at war with winmx and wants winmx gone rather than have anyone use anything evil km made...

Some times to help you have to get out of the way.
 I dont think new users will stay around for another 10 months if this keeps up.
thankfully most users don't care about anything but a working winmx... and pie have shown they don't give a damn about getting users on winmx, only getting users to keep downloading pie hosts files over and over again... very helpful

damn it, 2 replies in the time it took me to write my reply...? will you slow down! lol

but to back up what ghostship said... i have made no attempt to put my name all over winmxgroup, in fact i would rather that users not know or even care who made the patch, just care about the patch itself and how well it works - after all what difference does it make? a chimp could have made it for all that matters, what matters is what it is and what it does... and unfortunately (although i don't like the fact) i have recently had to stop using the name KM in chat rooms because of the publicity gained through forum posts about it... i don't like being the centre of attention, compare that to certain others...

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2006, 12:37:25 am »
stand up and take a bow km............out standing post..........
and no i not offended chuck.........if you want to know how the term pie maggot was coined, ill tell you sometime..........
but make no mistake pie have zero interest in you as a user or this network..........loosers like nobby try to say the advocated blocking absolute crap..........nobbu thru the months on nov and dec denied blocking was necessary HE opposed blocking even coming out with the stupid statement that blocking riaa was illegal........but now that pie is finished and there lies exposed nobby treies to say hes left pie and advocates blocking.......YOU F*CKING LIAR NOBBY..........check your own posts in the cesspool from oct thru to dec...or were you just lieing then..........you piece of **it..............
make no mistake the only interest vladd and gem have in you as a user is that you will visit there sites in order to make them money.........end of story...........
over the past 4 or 5 days we at winmxworld have been helping thousands of users who were abodanded by pie get re connected.......a disturbing feature is a lot of these have paid for winmx from adds on vladds and geminis web sites and yes maggots we have the room logs to back it up.........so i guess i should actually thank pie for sending so many thousands of users to us.........well done can you get nothing right..........
so despite my rantings and colourfull speech it should be clear to anyone........who is helping users and who is seeking to profit from them................

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2006, 01:23:07 am »
 TY KM for takeing the time to post and answer my questions.
I for one trust you. You have allways took the time to answer questions from everyone. This forum has always been fair to everyone and if its posted it stays unlike some forums that say they are for free speech this one lives up to it.
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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2006, 01:43:28 am »
It seems that the filtering is non existant over there again.

This incenses me and many others, most users who fall for this scam pay $60 Dollars, thats a lot of money to be handing over to these scum  :evil:

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2006, 01:45:07 am »
Forgive me for the fast post but this takes the cake.

Jim is pulling up old post just to do damage control and useing feer mongering  on the users of WinMX.

http://www.vladd44.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=43499#43499

Im  sure  am   happy  Jim  is  a  member  of Pie team.
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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2006, 05:00:43 am »
Their lies just keep adding up...
Anyone who thinks www.thepiratebay.org is down is welcome to click on this link :lol:
What better proof is needed? :lol:
Reconnect to winmx with the blocking patch :)
Patch link :
 https://patch.winmxconex.com/

Spread the word now :)

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2006, 07:21:00 am »
I have a sensible level of respect for most of the folks that use this forum, and although i dont always agree with all of you over many issues, at least some sensible debate occurs, and i acknowedge much of the hard work done here.
However there is one user, that usually only crawls out from under his rock once every 4 weeks or so, to stir things up, you now seem to have him perform for us daily, sometimes even more than that, i ofc refer to Icedragon aka bughunter etc etc. I would like to congratulate Icetard on his almost flawless performance in the roll of forum fool, he abuses me personally almost every post, i was banned from this forum for allergedly calling someone a liar (im still not sure what i said  but ho hum its history now), i will wait to see if the admins adopt a similar stance with one of their own, im sure a forum with the reputation for having an even handed approach would be keen to  ensure policy is applied equally to all.



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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2006, 07:42:06 am »
you are a looser and a liar nobby..........end of story.........and as usuall you open your mouth and just shit comes out..............not once have you presented a single fact to support anything you say.........just more lie deny and decieve..........standard pie tactics when they cant answer the question ..................
your continual moaning about a host file being a viable option is a joke...........and everyone now knows it..........but it also tells anyone paying attention that you havent left pie at all just another lie to add to the rest........even now the vladd help room DOESNT RECOMMEND BLOCKING as so very few users are advised of it............we have pages and pages of logs were pie maggots simply tell any user to install pie to fix there problem.......even before they have even asked if the user has a problem.........PIE is a fix for nothing.......it never was.........so maggot take ya hosts file back to your maggot patch and hang on tight to it like a baby does with a blanket........pie is finished just a sad pack of loosers all sitting around blaming km for everything.........go home to mumma ya babies your pathetic.........
and nobby if you think im lieing  PRODUCE THE EVIDENCE.........but of course you cant.........cannot deny the truth,you like the rest of your maggot group dont like the truth............because it exposes you for the bottom pond feeders that you are.............



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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2006, 08:53:33 am »
Nobby I shall ask Bug to tone the posts down, he was of course attacked many months ago by the pie team and is a man who is angry they abused people like himself asking about the lies in vladds room where he used to reside.

He is one of many who have left vladds room over the attacking free speech and hate campaign being conducted in there, thats my understanding of his annoyance, but yes it may be more helpful if he repeatedly presented the truth of many misleading and outright lies as we try to do.

Bug, Please try to hold back on taking Nobby to task for every wrong the pie team have done, he is only responsible for his own personal statements/actions and this topic is about vladds censorship not Nobbys.

Back to the Topic in hand folks.


I read Chucks post and once again it seems Jim is talking utter rubbish, he seems not to have knowledge of how a peer cache operates or the law regarding the operation of such a system.

Lets play the "pretend game", and suppose Jim had it spot on with the facts, does he really believe US law applies outside of the US ?
No WinmxGroup servers operate in the US, we have no offices there or any reason for the US to claim legal jurisdiction over any of winmxGroups activities.

The same cannot be said of the non-winmx group server that has been logging users IPs to gauge the size of the userbase against our advice, this could be something they seize in a trumped up server seizure.

Spreading lies is lame and even before apologising for the last lie Jim is launching the next one, does he think the users are as stupid as he seems to be ?
 



 

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2006, 09:15:09 am »
A purely factual sequence of events, with no bias or allegation is required...

https://forum.winmxworld.com/index.php?topic=2425.0.html

pie hosts file users stopped using one server on 23rd may, after the 31st may they were not using either of my servers

they were made aware of this on 1st june, on this same date replies were posted on that thread confirming that pie were aware and stating it isn't a problem they can manage fine without my servers

14th june rocks server goes offline due to him breaking it again and needing another reformat (he does a lot of those... must cost him a fortune at $50 a go... lol) hosting company fails to inform him of the server status so it's down for quite a while causing serious delays for users using outdated hosts files

15th june leps cable connection fails, users using the hosts file are unable to connect to winmx

16th june pie admit that their users are "having slow connections" - note for a day they have been completely unable to connect at all, and this is the first time they admit there is a problem - even a claiming there are no issues when specifically asked about it

17th june i get fed of with sitting there watching logs knowing that tens of thousands of users have winmx open just sitting there looking at a yellow flashing light unable to connect, with pie telling them "Please be Patient" (yes, that was still the only message being given to them) about mid day i start up a server able to get a message to those users who can not connect to the network, informing them of how to reconnect

same date (17th june) pie post how i have suddenly caused everyone to stop being able to connect and i am hijacking peoples computers or some shit to scare users away from winmx rather than get them reconnected

18th of june i am glad to announce was the second highest number of 3.0 downloads so far (there were only a few hundred less downloads than on the day of 3.0 being released)

btw, the official pie reason for the problems their users are having? see the bottom screen shot... it was my sudden turning off of peer caches without informing them... the fact those caches never turned off just moved, the fact that they were informed and refused to do anything about them, and the fact that their cable connection failure was what caused their users to be unable to connect... minor points it seems

bughunter

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2006, 09:56:16 am »
Bug, Please try to hold back on taking Nobby to task for every wrong the pie team have done, he is only responsible for his own personal statements/actions and this topic is about vladds censorship not Nobbys.........there is a difference ?...........they choose to live by the committee so shall they die by committee.......each is as responsible as the other.........
yes i find it find it intollerable that they are permitted to post....um err wats the words im looking for....there version of events ,while denying all of us the same access to there forum.............
i see no reason to treat one member of the pie team any different to any other member or supporter............
please show me any posting by a pie team member on this forum that has any basis on fact...........
just as jim is being taken to task for his version of events.........
but as you wish..........i shall tone back my postings regarding pie...........but it would just be simpler if pie were banned as i fail to see what anyone from pie could post that would be of any benefit to users or the community.,,as they havent posted anything in the last 10 months that has been, so fail to see why they would change now...............
but anyways still a steady stream of pie users who need a REAL patch................


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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2006, 10:12:15 am »
and as usuall you open your mouth and just shit comes out..............not once have you presented a single fact to support anything you say.........

Very well Bug, please see below a factual statement from me in the very thread, with the supporting evidence directly from google.


Just to set the record straight, google do offer a filter system for their ads HOWEVER you dont get to block keywords, you have to block each specific site as it comes on and manually, this takes some time, first you must spot the ad, and dont forget they change frequently, and change page to page often, once spotted you might copy the URL log onto the google account then add that URL to the fliter. The process itself is simple, the results however are a little unpredictable especially with scam sites as the URLs change regularly. plus ofc even once in the filter it can take sometime to actually be filtered out:

From my google account:

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In 5 easy steps below, we will show you how to set up your competitive ad filter from within your AdSense account.

    * To edit your competitive ad filter, log in to your AdSense account at https://www.google.com/adsense.
    * Click the AdSense Setup tab. A row of links will appear beneath the tabs - click Competitive Ad Filter. This page will display the URLs that are currently being filtered for your account. If this is the first time that you use your filter, the text box will be empty.
    * Choose the appropriate product sub-tab and click Add/Edit Sites.
    * Copy the URL from the ad into your filter list. There are a couple of ways to find this URL; both methods are described in detail below.
    * Click Save Changes to add these sites to your competitive ad filter. It usually takes about 4 hours for your changes to take effect, so ads for these sites will continue to be displayed on your pages for a little while. If filtered ads are still appearing after 12 hours, please contact us.

Just so as we are all clear, to totally prevent unwanted ads would require almost 24/7 monitoring, bit like fake flooders..

and nobby if you think im lieing  PRODUCE THE EVIDENCE.........but of course you cant.........

Please READ above Bug, you claim "not once have you presented a single fact" (refering to me) as you can see in this very thread you have been proven 100% WRONG, now quit talking rubbish and quit bringing the whole tone and credability of this forum down.

And just as i was about to post, Bug continued his rant:


please show me any posting by a pie team member on this forum that has any basis on fact...........


Please see below a posting from me, at the time i was a pie member, factual post with more supporting evidence than you could shake a stick at.

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1158

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While the effectiveness of lawsuits against American consumers has been long and thoroughly debated without definitive end, the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has announced a continued campaign regardless. It has been reported today that the RIAA has filed 235 more lawsuits against alleged copyright infringers. 

While no names have been released, the only details in the legal complaints is that 10 of them were filed against residents in North Carolina.

The news comes just shortly after reports that the MPAA has shut down an NZB website.

It has been reported that over 18,000 lawsuits have been filed with only a fraction of them resulting in settlements. Many lawsuits have also been dropped with only one known case of someone defending the suit. Many chose to settle as they are financially unable to pay the legal fees of a court battle against the RIAA. However, this also means that no legal precident is being set as well.

Even though it has been reported that over 4,300 individuals were forced to settle, filesharing has exploded in population since the lawsuit campaign began. This has sparked arguments that the campaign is not only failing to stem the flow of filesharing, but has also encouraged it through free advertising.

No further details of the latest wave of legal action have been released.


This one speaks for itself, more "legal" action with no actual legal precident set, i guess its business as usual, exstortion at its most blatent!


So i have addressed your issues with me, i have given you the evidence you have asked for, now please quit blaming others actions on me, quit behaving like an abusive troll and grow up.

Apologies to other folks for this long and boreing post, but i felt if i addressed Bugs statements about me, he may actual quit going over and over in such an unpleasent manner.

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2006, 10:30:46 am »
this thread isn't a pie advert, locked and moved to cesspool

sorry my mistake, i thought this was a different forum

knobby: no corrections to the sequence of events in my post? i may have got the date/time of one or two things slightly out as to find out when pie admitted various things i did have to confirm with posts on a pie forum, which is damn hard to do with 90% of them have been deleted and 5% moved

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #113 on: June 22, 2006, 11:10:00 am »
sorry but what does your google account and obvious creative editing have to do with anything.............
im still waiting for a single fact to back all the accusations you have posted on this forum..............
just more lie deny and decieve..............
ponders if nobass actually knows what a fact is.///
even km cant see a single fact in your lies..........so much so he thought he was on the pie forum...............
nobass when you accuse someone of TAKING down 3 cache servers........which by the way arenot under km,s control.........of having trojans or virues in his patch........of flooding the network with fake files........as you have been a party too..........as you have not made one posting correcting these mistakes ( cough bullshit lies cough).........you are supposed to present the killer blow THE EVIDENCE.........ya know that funni stuff that adds weight to your argument.............
well............. are you going to present any evidence?????????????????????????????/
have you even bothered to answer neutrons question..................its a pretty simple question but of course answering that would expose another errrrrrrr um   mistake on pies part as to why spybot and microsofts malicious software removal tool fire up when running pie installers ..............
do you deny nobby decieveing users into downloading pie patch without advising them of the problem of riaa........but of course since you ADVISE blocking you were protected...........yet you denied users this information..........
did you ever raise with vladd or gemini the problem of creditablity if they ran pay for winmx adds on there respective web sites..........
have you forgotten making numerous postings stating that blocking was illegal........this of course is a blantant mistake..........
you nobby obviously find no issue in the wholesale deleting editing and moving of posts on your forum.........even posts made my totally independant posters such as robinhood...........yet again denying and decieveing users...........
but getting back to your pathetic attempt at evidence,this may come as a surprise to you but us law doesnt apply outside of the us....it is pointless to quote stories from the us as they have zero bearing here.......( this is the internet dipstick us law doesnt apply ).riaa mpaa can kiss my ass there powerless and you know it.........
im sorry quicks but if you intend to let idiots like nobby post i see it as my god given right of free speech to rip him a new asshole and shove his stupid head up it...........
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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2006, 11:14:28 am »
this thread isn't a pie advert, locked and moved to cesspool

sorry my mistake, i thought this was a different forum

knobby: no corrections to the sequence of events in my post? i may have got the date/time of one or two things slightly out as to find out when pie admitted various things i did have to confirm with posts on a pie forum, which is damn hard to do with 90% of them have been deleted and 5% moved

I cannot correct your sequence of events km, as i have no information on these events you would be better to ask Pie for a correction, or better still Sabre, im sure they will be only too happy to point out any errors, lol

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #115 on: June 22, 2006, 11:21:07 am »
That would be a trifle hard of them to do so I think we all agree folks, the proof is in the public domain and I havent seen anyone with eyes denying the postings yet.

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #116 on: June 22, 2006, 11:25:31 am »
well we know sabres version of history... to quote him...

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19:10:19 <Sabre'> TSC, ranma and myself saved winmx

what more can i say? lmfao

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #117 on: June 22, 2006, 11:43:22 am »
sorry but what does your google account and obvious creative editing have to do with anything.............
im still waiting for a single fact to back all the accusations you have posted on this forum..............
just more lie deny and decieve..............
ponders if nobass actually knows what a fact is.///
even km cant see a single fact in your lies..........so much so he thought he was on the pie forum...............
nobass when you accuse someone of TAKING down 3 cache servers........which by the way arenot under km,s control.........of having trojans or virues in his patch........of flooding the network with fake files........as you have been a party too..........as you have not made one posting correcting these mistakes ( cough bullshit lies cough).........you are supposed to present the killer blow THE EVIDENCE.........ya know that funni stuff that adds weight to your argument.............
well............. are you going to present any evidence?????????????????????????????/
have you even bothered to answer neutrons question..................its a pretty simple question but of course answering that would expose another errrrrrrr um   mistake on pies part as to why spybot and microsofts malicious software removal tool fire up when running pie installers ..............
do you deny nobby decieveing users into downloading pie patch without advising them of the problem of riaa........but of course since you ADVISE blocking you were protected...........yet you denied users this information..........
did you ever raise with vladd or gemini the problem of creditablity if they ran pay for winmx adds on there respective web sites..........
have you forgotten making numerous postings stating that blocking was illegal........this of course is a blantant mistake..........
you nobby obviously find no issue in the wholesale deleting editing and moving of posts on your forum.........even posts made my totally independant posters such as robinhood...........yet again denying and decieveing users...........
but getting back to your pathetic attempt at evidence,this may come as a surprise to you but us law doesnt apply outside of the us....it is pointless to quote stories from the us as they have zero bearing here.......( this is the internet dipstick us law doesnt apply ).riaa mpaa can kiss my ass there powerless and you know it.........
im sorry quicks but if you intend to let idiots like nobby post i see it as my god given right of free speech to rip him a new asshole and shove his stupid head up it...........
winmx first..............

-You asked for a factual post from me, you got it.
-You asked for a factual post from a Pie member, you got it.
- Please explain where i have creatively edited the info from Google is right there on the website, go see for yourself.
- I have not accusded anyone of "taking down 3 cache servers" please address your accusations to those that make them
- I cannot present evidence of the "taking down" of the servers, please see reasons above.
- I have NEVER decieved any user
- I have raised the issue of winmx adds on vladds, and Pies sites, in fact if you READ my recent post, i actually stated here the new site  had all been added to the filters, something i didnt need to do.
- I have NEVER said blocking is illegal, i have MANY times stated blocking and the laws in this area are grey, a point proven recently when - Swedish police acting under threat from the US took down pirate bay.
- I DO find the deleting of posts unacceptable, i have made personal representations to those i feel are responsible, and have copied these representations to the site owner, which for the record is not me, unless you are refering to the sites i do own, in which case i await your evidence.
- With regard to Robin Hood, please revisit his post, you will note, i not only made his post an Annoucement, i also welcomed him and thanked him for posting the info, it was other admins that had at first removed his posts, a point i have already set you straight on.
- Please try explaining your "US law does not apply" comment to the 200+ companies who recently had their sites taken out in a country supposedly safe from US law, the law of their land being on their side still did not prevent them being taken down, they may get compensation, but the fact remains the will of the US was enough for them to be taken down, legally or not.


As for addressing Neutrons post, here we go:

Vladd and pie were the first to talk about monopolising MX. I remember the copy of the MSN conversation they made public where vladd said something like "we need to get rid of the DLL and promote our patch"
those are not the exact quotes from him, but that's basically what he meant. He was talking also about getting the pie patch to slyck's website and denying the dll.
KM and winmxworld have always been honest.. now they are whining and complaining that KM is the bad guy trying to monopolise MX.. lol..

the only weapon they have is the pie lie machine... and it's not working well anymore.

I have also seen logs of km suggesting we sneak out a new client and take over Winmx, and to use Neutrons words, "those are not the exact quotes from him, but thats basically what he meant".


I have addressed all your points now Bug, so quit telling lies about me, claiming i own sites that i dont, claiming i find no issue with things when i do, etc etc its just boring.

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #118 on: June 22, 2006, 11:58:32 am »
Actually the only suggestion of a new client came from the people who later formed pie (before then getting a time machine and saving winmx), and i was opposed to any such idea from the start, stating that it would not be WinMX it would be no different to claiming ares was the replacement (i believe i actually did say ares as the example...)

to be perfectly honest if the hosts file lot do finally give up and admit the truth about what a botch job it is and offer nothing better, then if i were left as the only person "running the show" as it were then i may consider writing a new client, as the only circumstances where i think anyone can write a new winmx client would be if they were the person in charge of it (ie they had completely taken over from frontcode)... however i doubt i would even do it in those circumstances

btw, 4200 users currently connected to the primary system i set up, all using hosts files that make their client query old caches that do not exist, none of them having been told by pie how to fix the issue and get back on to winmx... how nice of pie to keep its users informed of the constant updates they need to stay working

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Re: More of Vladd's "Free Speech"
« Reply #119 on: June 22, 2006, 01:02:44 pm »
Ahhh km, ii was just going through the motions for your troll who seems to feel the need to lie about me personally, perhaps you should feed him more eclairs and keep the leash tighter?


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