WinMX going downhill?

[DeathfireD]

I've always used winMX after Napster died and Kazaa turned into a viruse hole. But as of latlee I notice the lack of files on the winMX servers. Their simply is not many people hosting files anymore . Is it just me or does everyone else notice this as well?

[SamSeeSam]

Since winmx was closed down, we did lose a good number of users. Buut they are slowly coming back and the numbers are rising again.
Personally, I have had few if not no problems in getting the files I want.....

Cheers

[DeathfireD]

hmm well I originally used the hosts edit when the MX servers shutdown and didnt notice any change in lack of files then moved to the new client but I did noticed I have a real hard time finding anything I want thats not porn related lol.

I hope things change.

[SamSeeSam]

Remove the hosts file patch and install this patch
https://www.winmxupdate.com/Install-3.0-MultiVer.exe

It filters fakes from your results (eg searching for backstreet boys and getting porn hits)

Cheers

[Victim]

Yep the new fake file filter thingy is great, id recommend it. Winmx is a great p2p program. Yes it went downhill but is getting better as time go's by.

[Faithless_Sniper]

Wait till i get my internet sorted out and you will see a slight Improvement in the files being shared to WinMx. My Internet should be sorted in two weeks. Cya Soon

[DeathfireD]

well I removed the patch as soon as I saw the updates you guys did last year or the year before (I forgot) and like I said I've slowly started to see a major drop in the amount of files on the network. I'm not exactly sure if its due to people not using OpenNap anymore or what. Before I used to be able to find hard to find things but now I have to turn to Bittorrent

I think the major drop in files is probably because the vast majority of people think WinMX is dead and moved to LimeWire or BitTorrent. In any case I hope it doesn't get to the point where I cant find anything anymore.

PS. porn is not an issue, it seems thats the only good use for WinMX now

[mikeeee]

thats why i switched,audio files were hard enuf to find,but any older music was a waste of time,its all i used winmx for.

[GhostShip]

Well we all know the cure for elusive files, share extra files ourselves and generate more sources for material so others can enjoy, if we all do this I,m sure their will be more satisfied users out there 

[ñòóKýçrÕôK]

I think Ghost is right in a sence but I also think that after Fontcode was taken down and users used the hosts patch they thought there was still lots of files on mx because of all the fakes. Now I think the results are becoming less n less because as more people change to the winmxgroup patch it segnificantly cuts down on the number of primeries and the huge number of fake seconderies soaking up good open primeries. It's my belief you'll see a new phase on MX where the files shared will definately appear to fade. I also believe it will be only periodic and that soon enough you'll begin to see the numbers rise. But the only that will happen succesfully is more people go winmxgroup. Simple math. If Macrovision can load 1000's of fake seconderies onto 1 primery and all of a sudden that primery is removed from their grasp, obviously the files searches will drop in results. Hope that helps clear it up some. Not saying it's fact but I believe it only makes sence to be that in this situation.

[GhostShip]

Being an early tester of some of KM,s prototype patches its been nearly a year since I have seen any fakes and I suppose it can be disconcerting when you realise the 6000 results you got on a search are more like 900 genuine users.
Your reasoning is sound enough Nooks.

If someone is having problems with a specific title I will often point them to open-nap to avoid them being disappointed, many are pleasantly suprised upon finding winmx can do more than they first though.

The rest of you folks have the future of the network in your own hands, share more, generate publicity and spread the good news by word of mouth, that is the key to our long term survival, we are many, and together we can achieve much more for the future. 

[DeathfireD]

well its not a matter of old patch vs new because when I first used the current patch I found loads of things I wanted with no problem at all then a month later everything was gone and all I can find is porn or crap that has no relevance to anything. Its almost like a huge chunk of servers where removed from the network.

I'm sure this is either due to people leaving the open nap network or possibly you guys maintaining the network and thinking some sources are bad/fake. Id be interested in how you guys filter out fakes and stuff since I cant seem to find any info on it here.

In any case Ill continue to use MX on and off and hope more people will come back.

[SamSeeSam]

That depends on when you got the patch.
There was no effective protection against flooders since june I think, when he 3.0 was released.
So, from that point, there are no flooders on searches hence about a 90-5% decrease search listings.

How do we filter?
Well, certain trigger words are used to get searches. When flooders send out listings, they will appear on many searches with a huge chunk of results. The IP on a winmx whois is that of the primary.
The packets of the searches are then analysed and the actual source is found. Certain tests are then carried out to make sure the user isn't real. Then the flooder is put on the blocklist.
Ip's of flooders change every 15mins precisely, so a single IP will be ineffective in that time.

The blocklist team is headed by Me Here, so any more questions or information may be directed to her
All the above info is all that I know

Cheers

[GhostShip]

Give this a read, it will become plain to see why there is no way any innocent IP can be added to the blocklist.

 https://www.winmxworld.com/tutorials/fake_file_info.html

[DeathfireD]

It was indeed a great read, its to bad other p2p services don't have something like this.

Also do you guys happen to also integrate the peer guardian p2p list into your block/filter lists? Not sure if its really needed since barly anyone uses MX anymore but i'm sure it would be added security later on if the network starts building up in users again.

[SamSeeSam]

Including about 900 million Ip's or about 19% of all possible ip's and 40%of the Ip's that are used is not something that is done here.

Peer Guardian is no longer supported because of a multitude of reasons which can be read here:
https://forum.winmxworld.com/index.php?topic=4113.0.html

The method of detection and blocklist is totally the work of Km, Me Here and Ghostship, and others who work behind the scenes. Pg has never shown any support to their efforts.

Cheers

[KM]

hardly any? winmx is going strong, the only problem it has is people saying how it's crap, in an attempt to make it crap, there are various people doing it with various motives, the only thing that is for sure is that every single person who actually has any way of knowing how many people use winmx all state that winmx is going strong... the only people saying otherwise are people who have questionable motives and wouldn't know anyway

and i'm not sure which block lists you think should be used? we have found no lists at all for anti-p2p groups, that is why we maintain our own list... the only projects i've ever heard about even attempting to maintain lists are bluetack, who as everyone knows don't have a clue about anything p2p related (which is why they block every major p2p network in their so-called anti-p2p list, along with 38% of the entire internet), and an experimental blocklist.org, which to be perfectly honest is just as useless as the bluetack ones... currently we have a 100% accurate block list that blocks absolutely everything that needs blocking without blocking a single thing that should be allowed, i don't know of any projects that can even compare, let alone improve on that...

[DeathfireD]

@KM - well id first like to say if your post was directed at me for saying winMX is going downhill then you need to back off. I never said anything ill-hearted about WinMX; in fact I've been supportive and understanding this whole time. I only posted that theres been a major drop in the number of files on the network compared to the past. If you don't agree or see that then I have no idea where your heads at because their is definitely a drop. You cant just say "every single person who actually has any way of knowing how many people use winmx all state that winmx is going strong". That's like me saying because I program and you don't, I know I'm better then you. Get what I'm saying? Show some graphs or numbers of people and how many files are being shared and remember theirs a difference between people on the network and files being shared on the network.

Second, Peer Guardian did have a p2p list hosted on source forge but as of a few weeks ago it looks like their redirecting to blue techs now...so never mind about using the lists. I was only trying to help. I agree your method on catching fakes is great it's to bad other p2p services don't take your approach. Although the creator of G1 and G2 might. hes an open minded guy.

Anyway I really hope you don't take all constructive criticism this way. I don't like being labeled someone with questionable motives just because i'm stating the obvious.

PS. if you where not directing the above statement to me then forget what I said.

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the only thing that is for sure is that every single person who actually has any way of knowing how many people use winmx all state that winmx is going strong

because obviously the people in the rooms and the ones complaining about it all so often have no idea ehh... must be a figment of their imagination

perhaps you could explain that to the people that have closed there rooms because of lack of people coming in these days... but then we been there done that and as i remember it must be there own faults

 

the only problem it has is people saying how it's crap, in an attempt to make it crap, there are various people doing it with various motives

why does it have to be that there are motives behind it ?

cant it be that people are seeing with there own eyes what is right in front of them ?

seems everytime there is any criticism of winmx the

motive

chestnut is pulled out the fire these days or if its about the rooms its the hosts fault ( god forbid that people might  only be  noticing what is right in front of them)

the only problem it has is people saying how it's crap, in an attempt to make it crap,

perhaps these people might just have there eyes open and reporting it back ( stranger things have happened )

 

the only people saying otherwise are people who have questionable motives and wouldn't know anyway

pretty condescending thing to say about the people that are only pointing out  what they see  ( or rather don't see )

The only thing i have noticed an increase of is a glut of tagged movie files and annoying pms to use there rooms if u want to d/load from them despite freely sharing files to anyone myself

[SamSeeSam]

I only posted that theres been a major drop in the number of files on the network compared to the past.

Can you gove an estimate to the drop, ie, 10%, 20@ etc

Cheers