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I cant see sites that offer such services and base their whole effort to aiding copyright infringement have any defence against law suits Pri, we on the other hand have bent over backwards to ensure we are not part of any such activity and its this refusal to become a "man in the middle" that's kept us providing support as we do without spurious claims of liability, we can all name torrent sites that have fallen by the wayside and will continue to do so, its pretty short sighted to look at one model simply because its currently popular and yet so insecure, the concept of mass participation in a network works just as well for winmx with its multiple download facility as it does bit torrent and to date no one has been able to show any speed settings in a windows socket that would make BT any faster with a single seed than winmx can offer, having multiple srcs provides the big speed boost and that seems to be the reasoning behind nearly all cases of claimed speed increases.
What I,m trying to point out here is that we can change and we can innovate but if we are just going to follow the network of sheep then we have nothing to offer, that's not a premise that we can build on or go anywhere with, we all know about BT users being sued for thousands of dollars each, and we all know no one using WinMX has been tackled for so much as a penny, as long as that remains the case its pretty reckless to point folks to a model based on automatic infringement if the file is copyrighted, have we all forgotten that its uploading and not downloading that is cited in all cases as infringement and thus downloaders are 100% safer on such a non symmetrical network ?
I am finding it pretty concerning that the only folks bothering to reply in this thread are those nay-saying WinMX in favour of other networks, has support for the network dropped so low that only two ppl who use BT more than winmx are interested in replying ?
@Pribittorrent is at most as fast as WinMx as mulipoint download is limited by sources and most of all and not unimportant by your bandwidth
There are problems with flooders, with still unprotected Primaries (some of which i suspect are deliberately set up by cartel participants) but worst of all, with non-sharers, folks with big(or small) libraries who wanna q and take, q and take, but never give.A Cultural thing, as referred to by Pri with his 'People only interested in files'? I dunno, but education of some kind is needed.Furthermore, someone might wanna kick my butt for suggesting, but i think Loyalty, Faithfulness, is a huge factor. Why ARE we sitting here championing WinMX out of one side of our mouths and then preaching Torrents out of the other? Time and time again in chatrooms, i see 'Ohh, I haven't used winmx to download for years' or words to that effect. Where the F...'s the loyalty???Such internal Hypocrisy will not do us any good at all. USE THE DAMNED PROGRAM, THATS WHY YOU ARE HERE!!!!!!!!
I think chaps you both make my case for me, if only half the effort put into seeking alternatives was put into delivering some creativity and a positive approach for this community I would be making different types of demands, as you both know our ears are not closed to ideas here and for good reason, we all need to look forward and innovate where possible so some good ideas come from these forum discussions but lets be honest I,m not going to bother with BT just because many sheep do and for the same reason I don't operate a warez server, its just not something I care to use, of course folks do and will continue to use it but like I mentioned already look at the cost of doing so if creates the situation of auto-infringing copyrighted material, you cant auto-infringe using winmx, its an active choice to do so.What I haven't heard yet are sensible ideas to sustain the community and its unique flavour, as stated many times if your own actions create the situation you complain of that's called a self fulfilling prophecy as you are part of the cause of your own problem.Lets hear some out of the box ideas folks, we all gain by sharing our wisdom even when its not obvious what that wisdom is
you cant auto-infringe using winmx
- Moving files and keeping them available for others is complicated and almost never done by users as a result
port the 'look and feel' of WinMX to a brand new codebase with a new protocol and we leave the old v3.5x protocol behind.
@Stripes: Browsing is not infringing activity, its simply a list delivered from a winmx primary and a list is not the same as actual file data that is necessary to bring a claim for infringement.