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Offline allenx1966

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Newest patch estimate?
« on: May 31, 2011, 05:48:35 am »
I think I want to know what everyone wants to know. Anyone have any clue when the new patch will come out to stiffle the current attack?  I got a brat stepson wanting a million songs,and I have always been a heavy user of winmx. Every time I have had an issue I have been able to work through it with help from the forum or chat room. I am completely in the dark now.  On searches, I get what I think everyone is getting, every file they were NOT looking for.  I even tried to fire up open nap ,and I got 15 or so working connections, but very limited files being shared there.

  I try to fix Winmx, no luck.
  I try to get open nap going, can't find a reliable list.
 I try to find an alternative p2p program, no luck.
 I come to the forum to look for help,I can't find any current items,and it seems very hard to sort through the forum.
 Maybe I am getting old now, or just tired of constantly having to re-learn everything. I have tried to learn the torrent deal, and I am so lost with it.
 I am guessing I am not alone here,I am not a rocket scientist,but I usually figure things out more than the average joe.
 I have always tried ton contribute to the network, often leaving winmx on just supporting the network even when I am not downloading.

  I am at my wits end here. I actually just BOUGHT 4 songs for the first time in my life since the creation of napster. Is this the end of the road here? Is it possible for whatever leaders are still here to make an easy access explanation on where we are now, whats being done,whats the future,and what can we as users do in the meantime?

   thanks, allen

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 06:35:34 am »
cerulean studios... the makers of the trillian IM client often had a tongue-in-cheek joke in which they said "Coming Soon(tm)" as they were notorious for delays or just plain not knowing when they could get something to work.... this passing of time would sometimes count into years.... ...following in that tradition i say;

Coming Soon(tm)

Offline allenx1966

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 03:14:48 am »
FYI , LIMEWIRE PIRATE 5.6 IS WORKING FINE ,HAD TO TURN OFF MY STATIC IP,WHICH TO ME IS A GOOD THING. BE SURE TO USE PEERBLOCK THOUGH .

Offline steed_and_emma

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 01:08:17 pm »
Oh no!  Years????  Say it isn't so, please.
Has there at least been some communication with the perpetrator who caused all this grief?  This can't be the work of one disgruntled user, unless he/she is working on behalf of a much larger interest.   

Offline GhostShip

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 06:10:16 pm »
@Allenx1966

Limewire is (was) a client using the Gnutella Network, a network famous for being the hunting grounds for many anti filesharing companies and enjoys a healthy virus pool.

Be patient and hold on to your ropes  :yes:

@Steed and Emma
The attacks originate from more than one person and by studying the styles of the attack its clear there may be different cowards involved in the current attack methods as some are far from trivial to attempt unless your a programmer with a knowledge of the WinMX Primary Protocol, this sets the sights on a few well known folks and those same ppl have stated they are here to smash winmx for fun because they can, they cannot be negotiated with as they still pretend they are not committing these attacks but one thing is 100% clear they started the attacks and handed out the tools for others to do so in the shape of src codes and some  primary protocol documentation similar to that which was kept under lock and key by a few  trusted members of the community, when the attacks come from our own community its pretty sad and shows the callous lack of moral responsibility shown by these two ex users.

Negotiating with anyone at this stage is a waste of time as once the pair of thoughless yoyos released the material and documentation anyone who knows a bit of programming can throw together a tool to cause abuse, thus instead of two stupid folks we know have face all of them, I for one dont believe we can continue to operate as normal under these conditions and thus we have put in place the new patch project and its coming along rapidly, however we have hit a small hurdel but we have also gained another community coder to help work past that hurdle so no one can set a day but asap is the speed those guys are working at.
I hope that answers many of the current questions being asked here.

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 07:46:36 pm »
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Limewire is (was) a client using the Gnutella Network

still works... frostwire is an alternative that connects to gnutella as well... limewire still works due to it being based on open source....

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a network famous for being the hunting grounds for many anti filesharing companies

thats where peerblock comes into play

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and enjoys a healthy virus pool.

how anyone gets viruses from p2p networks baffles me... what are you folks downloading to get them?



all in all ppl are going to 'vote with their feet' regardless of how you try to scare ppl out of moving away...

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 07:47:27 pm »
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Limewire is (was) a client using the Gnutella Network

still works... frostwire is an alternative that connects to gnutella as well... limewire still works due to it being based on open source....

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a network famous for being the hunting grounds for many anti filesharing companies

thats where peerblock comes into play

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and enjoys a healthy virus pool.

how anyone gets viruses from p2p networks baffles me... what are you folks downloading to get them?



all in all... in the end... ppl are going to 'vote with their feet' regardless of how you try to scare them out of moving away...

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 09:14:24 pm »
Scare them or reaffirm why they came to mx in the first place, are you sure your not working for the Cartel these days Stripes ?

You seen to want to pan any good news with your negative views.

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 10:10:27 pm »
came to winmx in the first place cos it was one of the choices after napster shut down.... frontcode ran no blocklist...

Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2011, 12:33:14 am »
lol a friends told me about winmx when napster closed, i figured out how to use with the help of wmw.
i'm just too stupid to use anything else, lol

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2011, 12:50:35 am »
heh i tried kazaa first after napster since it was the 'big thing' at the time but was a little too big for my little 133mhz machine in use back then (still have that motherboard somewhere) winmx was lite and had a lot of files.... needed quickmx back then to get most of the files i was after but it worked ;)

somewhere in there i was using 'SPR jukebox' on IRC (talk about 'being out in the open' lmao) ... think napster still worked back then tho... wow... uh... need some WD40 for my brain to put a time period on that one...

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 12:53:09 am »
Two words made me come here, encryption and decentralised.

Offline Bieb

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2011, 12:57:48 am »
You can thank my cousin for me being here lol.

She had me use audio galaxy for a whole 2 weeks before it got shutdown before suggesting this.

Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2011, 03:34:32 am »
thats right, kazaa, i used kazaa lite for a while

Offline allenx1966

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 07:54:58 am »

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how anyone gets viruses from p2p networks baffles me... what are you folks downloading to get them?



all in all ppl are going to 'vote with their feet' regardless of how you try to scare ppl out of moving away...
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Im with you...... the new open source pirate limewire has not been giving me any viruses , either people are talking about something they have not checked out,or they are searching for some off the wall files.
right now, limewire is working like winmx used to work,and i dont mean recently. limewire is working like the old winmx pre patch,or pre need for a patch.
 i just have to put 2 cents in here...... winmx will not survive by only having total tech geeks and experts using it. i figure things out pretty good,and you guys still know way more about this p2p crap than i could ever learn.    i tried to spread the word....... but do you know how hard it is to show people how to use winmx that dont even know how to run defrag?  people of lessor knowledge are able to run limewire if they can manage to get the correct pirate version.   
  lets be honest here, to heck with the last few weeks problems..... winmx has not been user friendly since the patch came out and people using routers,(which is almost everyone now),were forced to set up static ip's. ...... that being said, dont get me wrong,i still want to like winmx and i will be glad to support the network whenever possible.     i guess what i am driving at is this.... get it fixed right, or kiss it goodbye...... people will not spend 4 hours setting up software to get 1 song,if they are lucky.     am i wrong here?????????

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2011, 09:27:49 am »
The gnutella network of which limewire any flavour is a client has cartel search bots regularly hunting for fresh meat whilst its a million dollar developement type client it suffers from not being able to stop such network data mining or fake file entries, winmx is the only p2p that offers such a facility so sure its old but sure its track record is good and its users strong and tech savvy, most folks dont have to set a static ip unless they run a chat room as the community patch does upnp for folks anyway so I can only surmise your not using it ?

If your having router issues, follow the link at the top of the forum for the best winmx patch and see for yourself the smoothness of its port forwarding  :-D

Offline JustSomeone

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 02:23:16 pm »
The gnutella network of which limewire any flavour is a client has cartel search bots regularly hunting for fresh meat whilst its a million dollar developement type client it suffers from not being able to stop such network data mining
so you are implying that such things can be blocked on winmx? then why have you chosen not to? i mean apart from using the excuse that "omg a search bot" to justify adding a major japanese residential ISP to the block list to try and cut down on the japanese userbase..

96.86%* of the searches on the network are from those cartel search bots rather than real users, compare with gnutella where it's hard to actually spot the search bots without extensive monitoring because they are practically nothing compared to legitimate traffic

I also note that yet again your response to someone pointing out "it's not easy for users" is "ahh but to get winmx just click Patch at the top" totally ignoring that your own statement points out how difficult it is for a new user, how do you know that the download is there? is it because it's your website, or is it because that is the obvious place where someone would try looking to download a program?

*the 96.86% figure is a guesstimate from watching the searches on the network, i've not actually counted packets, so it could be 80% or it could be 99%, but it is significantly more than legitimate traffic

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 05:25:38 pm »
96.86%* of the searches on the network are from those cartel search bots rather than real users, compare with gnutella where it's hard to actually spot the search bots without extensive monitoring because they are practically nothing compared to legitimate traffic

The network is more likely under attack by disgruntled X admins, and not the cartel that is causing the problems with bogus traffic, fake files or bad search results. I've been using WinMx since its birth, and I have only downloaded maybe 3 fake files after all these years. I have never downloaded a virus using WinMx. WinMx was a much safer network overall than the gnutella network which Limewire uses. I would go so far as to say WinMx was the safest P2P network out there.  The gnutella network generally had much faster downloads, large amount of music to choose from, but did not have nearly the amount of movies that the WinMx network had when it was running well. Especially older films. I'm an 80's buff myself.  Both clients have their advantages, and disadvantages.  Now WinMx has been compromised, and its no good for my uses anymore, but i'm not going to give up on it just yet.
I'm a Hardware, and Cyber Security Guy.

Offline GhostShip

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2011, 07:26:37 pm »
Until KM (Just someone above) started attacking the network and making it near impossible to monitor effectively we where in fact blocking those data miners from dll users, his ignorance of this explains why he was completey unaware why some IP's where on the blocklist.

Another backseat driver at work.

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Re: Newest patch estimate?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2011, 07:38:06 pm »
I don't remember you ever discussing that with the community GhostShip? How is anyone supposed to know everything if you keep it all to yourself in secret? It seems as though you criticize others for not knowing information, yet you're the one hogging all the information for yourself.

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