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to a point you are right the argument does border on the fantical...........but then winmxworld care passionetly about mx and the community..........after all the new dll 3.0 patch only addresses the damage caused by pie patch to the network...........noone from pie has ever denied there pie patcch is solely responsible for 1 the fakes on the network 2 the flooding that leads to denial of service attacks on primaries and 3 the harvesting of ip addresses by riaa for possible futher legal action...........it is clear to everyone except pie that their patch has no place on winmx and that it should be withdrawn asap..........but no pie go on promting there special brand of disaster seemingly ignorant to the damage there pie patch does...........so it is clear in order to have a clean network which will attract both old and new users back to winmx that pie patch has to be eradicated from winmx...........riaa only need one unprotected pie patch user and the flooding the fakes and ip harvesting will continue.............so it is up to you the community to decide if you want a clean network or a continuation of the current situation..........if your choice is a clean network then do your part and discourage anyone from using a hosts file connection.....after all its in everyones best interest that pie are gone completely and forever......................
after all the new dll 3.0 patch only addresses the damage caused by pie patch to the network
noone from pie has ever denied there pie patcch is solely responsible for 1 the fakes on the network
noone from pie has ever denied there pie patcch is solely responsible for 2 the flooding that leads to denial of service attacks on primaries
noone from pie has ever denied there pie patcch is solely responsible for 3 the harvesting of ip addresses by riaa for possible futher legal action
it is clear to everyone except pie that their patch has no place on winmx and that it should be withdrawn asap..........but no pie go on promting there special brand of disaster seemingly ignorant to the damage there pie patch does
so it is clear in order to have a clean network which will attract both old and new users back to winmx that pie patch has to be eradicated from winmx...........
riaa only need one unprotected pie patch user and the flooding the fakes and ip harvesting will continue
so it is up to you the community to decide if you want a clean network or a continuation of the current situation..........if your choice is a clean network then do your part and discourage anyone from using a hosts file connection.....after all its in everyones best interest that pie are gone completely and forever...
bug:noone from pie has ever denied there pie patcch is solely responsible for 3 the harvesting of ip addresses by riaa for possible futher legal action
Gnarly:What's to deny? When has the pie patch lead to harvesting of IP addresses that has resulted in RIAA legal action? Total red herring. Whatever facility the RIAA has to harvest IP addresses, it works no less well with the DLL patch than the pie patch.
No. It is in everyones interest to have multiple connectivity solutions. Didn't you learn anything from the Irish Potato Famine? Relying on a single source is what needs to be guarded against as it can be catastrophic. Diversity is the best form of security and survivability. Go eat some bugs great hunter.
Someone take up the challenge of creating a new connection method, and include a way to block flooders.
Lets make this clear to all the readers here, as you seen not to want to admit this simply, the dll cannot be used to upload fake file lists, therefore the dll using folks cannot be used to launch denial of sevice attacks with fake listings, only host file users.
Every fake listed file on the WPN is allowed there by host file users is that clear enough ?
Yes we could all use Peer Guardian to block the other aspect of so called "enforcement" activities and I like to run this program myself but it alone is not up to the job of blocking fakes from the WPN for 3 reasons I shall lay out below 1) Many of the flooders are dynamic and appear within normal ISP ranges, this at first sight is not a problem until your range is the one being blocked, Blutak are notorious for refusing to unblock ranges once added. 2) The delay in adding a detected number would negate the whole anti flooding system each time a new set of IP,s appeared and some days can have as many as 8 changes. 3) It can only update once a day, after reading the above you can appreciate this solution was tested over months and found wanting, a superior sytem is in place now.
Lets get down to the real reason for you defending the host file solution, fear, like vladd and the pie team you have determined that KM is the new bogeyman and are scared of the idea of him having control over the WPN, this seems to override any logical thought from you.
Your statement that the dll blocks "only a few" of the fake flooders is pure ignorance, demonstrating you have not even tested it, it blocks 100% of them
The DLL protects only winmx and only against a few known fake file flooder IPs. It does nothing to filter out the numerous corporate domains owned by RIAA/MPAA types like sony, disney etc that can and are being used by their net cops to track down those who they claim are sharing 'their intellectual property'.
For your information last week macrovision where flooding on multiple drive letters and file paths, this negates the -user filter, perhaps you where not aware of this but we where and action has been taken to remedy the situation in our favour.
I take umbrage with your ill informed statement regarding winmxgroup operations in general, there are reserve servers in place to replace any offline ones and as you are surely aware the dll does not use a fixed IP to connect and can be made to redirect to other sites ( by altering the dns information online ) that are on standy as has happened before in a test, scare stories are all well and good until measured against the truth.
The same truth that knows there was no "Pie" solution last september, Sabre, Hollowlife Ranma and others made the host file installers and "pie" peer caches with help from others, pie came about 1 week after that, please give the credit where its due.http://www.vladd44.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5579
If you have questions please just ask them, talking like a shill yourself loses folks respect for you.
s**t for brains as obvious by your stupid statements..............you clearly have little idea about how either the wpn works of how the dll works.........as for pg2 being a effective block lmfao..........wat colour is the sky in your world...............pg2 without winmxworlds blocklist is almost totaaly ineffective as most of riaa /mpaa dont even appear on pg2 block lits...............and more to the point pg2 brings with it as many problems as it resolves..........but you clearly dont know this or you wouldnt make such stupid posts,..........but then of course your a pie maggot and as such lack a functioning brain.........like all those involved in pie..........you would be better served actually studying how the wpn works and more importantly how the dll works before making such stupid and ridiculus statements which only go to show you have no understanding of either..............but then your nothing but a maggot so i guess we have to make allowances for the mentally challanged such as your self........................................
peer guardian is NOT effective at blocking flooders, allowing them to continue using you for 24 hours is helpful? yes, of course... what does it matter? they only need to change 1 flooders IP Address every 24 hours and they can continue to use you to flood non stop - whilst at the same time you are denying thousands (tens of thousands?) of legitimate winmx users from being able to connect, how nice of you to only allow macrovision on to the network and nobody else...
-user will still filter for many searches however they have already stopped using it for others so it is not effective at filtering fakes (even ignoring the thousands of legitimate users it filters), using it can still help to reduce the flood of traffic for now but it certainly does not filter all fakes
and the dll uses multiple domain names for the cache hostnames, this is to prevent a technical failure on one domain name causing everything to go down - there is no issue at all with "them" just taking over a domain name, as that can not happen - no countries government has ever even attempted to try and shut down a domain name within a GTLD, the only government that could possibly have the technical ability to do so will not because of the outrage it would cause, governments can only censor domain registrations within their countries TLD
and the issue of things being shut down... what do you think is more likely? they will seize 1 US based server (rock's cache on 209.67.209.50) then simply knock 1 cable connection offline using force (lep's cache on 82.43.224.20 - which they could easily either use force, or just send an email to the abuse department pointing out that it is being used to host a server as part of a profit making website, which would be against the AUP... they'd only need to keep it offline for 24 hours to force an IP change) - rendering the current hosts file on that minor website completely useless, or do you think they will risk disrupting the entire internet and possibly having their country locked out of the internet (as has been threatened by several major providers) by trying to shut down a couple of international domain names? perhaps now you see why winmx has always used a DNS based system to prevent being shut down by force...?and if for some reason you think that the US government would risk trying to shut down multiple international domain names, well the US, UK and Swedish governments (with the support of others) working together couldn't do it to TPB - so what makes you think the US government alone could?
