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Offline DaBees-Knees

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A Spamming Problem
« on: November 01, 2009, 08:40:07 am »
This is a heads up to all users.

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Being Spammed?

As many of you will already be aware some individual or individuals have recently decided to spam many of the rooms on WinMx. The object of the spamming is to be insulting and offensive, and get a reaction.

My advice

Use a little common sense.

Warn other users in your room that it is a spammer.

Don’t be tempted to reply to any of the crude comments made by the spammer.

If it’s possible to use word replacement in your room, for the more offensive words, do so. This will kill the impact of the spammers message, and is a good idea anyway.

One of the objects that the spammer seems to be trying to achieve is to try and give the impression that an administrator from another room is doing the spamming. Don’t let yourself be fooled by this and be tempted to retaliate. If this happens, most people should be able to realise that foul and offensive comments are out of character with that administrators usual behaviour.

Sadly, there are shallow souls in all walks of life that think spoiling other peoples enjoyment is funny. Spamming shows a degree of immaturity so you need to realise that and act accordingly.

Trying to talk common sense to a spammer is a total waste of time. If they had any common sense they wouldn’t be doing it.

Spammers live for your reaction. If what they do is no longer seen to be achieving the object of annoying you, and they don’t get a reaction, there’s no point in them doing it anymore.

Have fun ........ idiots come and go (or possibly just grow up).

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Offline MinersLantern

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 02:41:12 am »
I too have had the delightfully entertaining spammer in my room. He/she/it likes to pretend its from another room. The names of the rooms change more often than I change my socks. It likes to use Tor. At first, I blocked known Tor hosts, then I checked out just how many nodes are in Tor. Waste of time to firewall it. So, I set my usual known users to get enough access in WCS to talk, etc as is allowed in the room using Metis to make that decision with a list. Anyone else (newbies including the non-obvious Tor ips) are denied the power to speak or do anything else.
The dimwit doing this sillyness has been eliminated from my room, although the 'paperwork' may seem difficult at first. Rooms have a certain set of regs to simply allow access right away. Any others can just wait until I decide if they have permission to speak. Works great for me!  :lol:
Known Tor ips get denied speech and also a really insulting remark before getting banned. I would send them to petsex, but that would be mean to petsex. :pumpkin:


Offline Bluey_412

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 04:10:55 am »
Oh well done....

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 09:09:28 am »
and now what do i see in rooms?
DaBees-Knees is appearing to go round rooms in all caps   i am from winmxworld.com i am allowed to spam bla bla about this topic,
this is making you look unpopular too, well done

Note - I am not in the habit of using all caps when I type.  :yes:

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Offline countrygirl922

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 09:52:21 am »
when a spammer comes into my room i ban the ip have had 3 spammers over the last few days

Offline tig

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 11:56:25 am »
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DaBees-Knees is appearing to go round rooms in all caps   i am from winmxworld.com i am allowed to spam bla bla about this topic,
this is making you look unpopular too, well done

It isnt the staff at winmxworld.com. I have been in rooms that this has been done and also my username has been used as well.

From the information provided bees was in winmxworld.com Help at the time of the spamming. and helping with this issue. With myself it has happened when I have been away from the pc or off attending to other things. This was no way meant to be part of the spammers stuff to use and it has been part of it.
 
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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 12:06:28 pm »
Hello people, I’d just like to say that although it’s wrong for this spammer do to what he’s doing, banning names and tags or taking voices on entry is not the answer, in fact I believe this is what the spammer wants. I have made a simple bot that picks up on the swearwords the spammer has been using by word replacement’s in the room configs with triggers attached. So if the spammer says the ‘F’ word, in any configuration, the room configs should pick it up and change it  F * * K=tronk #c35# taker105 .  The bot picks up on the trigger, boot’s the spammer into a none text format then clones him and takes the mickey before kicking. This doesn’t catch him every time as he doesn’t always sware, but his choice of words can be added to the room configs. The idea is to degrade the spammer by humiliation, hopefully he will get less fun out of his actions while we can laugh at him. The bot is just a quick fix, I’m giving it to anyone who wants it, but hopefully people can use it as a template and develop it to suit their needs.

Thanks. That's the way to go.

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Offline $i£ve®$haÐów

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 01:50:22 pm »
well im not surprized! He gets of with it all the time. 90% of winmx knows the person doing this.

Offline Bluey_412

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 01:59:43 pm »
We do???
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Offline tig

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 02:05:35 pm »
It is all theories at the moment we cant be sure on who it is. I am sure as when we do know it will be delt with.
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Offline mb2003

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 02:46:31 pm »
As i read about the spams i read post after post, And i also agree 90% of us know whos doing it. The ? is can something be done? I dont think people using proxies can be banned but they can in ares. This guys been stirring in every room and hes forcing alot to close. We cant name his name? Ill say his damn name and give u his hotmail, but who am i giving it to? Who the heck is in charge of winmx? I have also blocked the tags  blocked certain words he commonly uses one which is p e d o. Hes a dead give away i know exactly who he is, what room he hosts, his messnger addy and ive reported him to microsoft so many damn times over the last 6 months that microsoft sent me a letter telling me to quit reporting it now. But i do have the incident number and they wanna hear from anyone who has him spamming under same ips with room logs. If noone has the ability to remove him from winmx then so be it. But hes not just spamming hes causing problems in alot of rooms. Theres 4 of us posting here i wonder if all 4 of us think this is the same guy?

Offline birdman

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 03:12:58 pm »
As 90% of you have also been to my room acusing me lets not beat around the bush you think it is me but sadly your wrong as my rooms also been spammed over and over by the same person, tig has been sat in my room for days now and seen it with her own eyes so quit blaming me!

Offline MizBehavin

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 03:19:36 pm »
I too believe we all have dealt with this spammer one way or another... It obvious to me we all at one point had trust this person to enter our rooms... He  or she is able to copy paste and clone so many ... I hope this person get caught soon... Most of us love our Chat rooms and dont come to chat rooms for all this drama... Im so happy to have made so many great Friends
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Offline DaBees-Knees

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 05:01:17 pm »
You are all playing in to the spammers hands by making guesses at who is doing it and also probably thinking of the wrong person anyway. It can be very upsetting for anyone wrongly accused of something like this. That upset is probably all part of the spammers plan. It's not good enough to be 99% sure who it is. For effective action to take place you have to be 100% certain.

The WinMx team are doing their best to try and find a cure, but because of the constantly changing proxies it's not that easy.

As I have said previously, chaos and reaction is just what the spammer wants or there is no point in him or her spamming. Try to stay calm. We know a lot of you are getting very frustrated and that is just what the spammer is trying to achieve.

Complaining at the WinMx admins isn't helping anyone. We are fully aware of what is taking place and doing our best to try and find a method of combating it.

Anyone with any factual information (not guesses) please pass it on to any of the WinMx supervisors.

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Offline wonderer

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2009, 05:56:53 pm »
The more we talk about this matter, the more fun it is to stir up in rooms.
Best tactic is to ignore imho.

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2009, 10:22:50 pm »
There are many way for room hosts and admins to deal with, and protect themselves against spammers.

When you first go into chats, there is a little pop-up stating that the chats are not controlled. So why are we trying to administrate them? These rooms are property of their hosts, and nobody else.

I for one will not give the spammer the joy in investigating. I will simply suggest ways to strengthen the rooms defenses. This spammer wants to be noticed. Why would we notice him by talking about him and trying to figure out who he is? Make the rooms more secure, and he will go away.

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2009, 12:59:09 am »
well,
looking around as i do from the 20+ rooms im often in,
its not a spammer, it is a group of spammers,
how can 1 man be in different rooms with different cloned names on different ip's at the same time?
he either is faster than the speed of the net, or its afew spammers,

thinking, who wants to disrupt winmx so much and annoy us that we close rooms through desperation?
possibly the same people who fake floods and fake files, flooding networks with false ip's and i heard of some kind of fllod when loading channel lists?



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Offline GhostShip

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2009, 01:18:42 am »
Its pretty easy to appear to come from a few different IP,s at the same time if you know what to use, could even be a bot or two as spam posting is not exactly hard work as many have seen over the years.

Now just so we dont run ahead of ourselves here with guesswork we can refine the facts further even, this guy grabs names and not just any names but well known community names and spams them where he believes they will cause fighting and drama, the riaa paid attackers are scuzz-balls but this is not their line of work as you all know, this is common or garden chat room idiot on the rampage and thats that.
The recent activity is not the flooders or other winmx attackers, there is no smoke and mirrors in use here, just a simple proxying technique and that will only work until all the nodes are blocked as they can be if thats what folks want.

If you see this parasite and he is being rude or spamming just post his IP(s) in the host section here and the other hosts can block him from their rooms too if they havent already.

Offline Pri

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2009, 07:48:39 am »
If you want some good ideas for stopping this spam I suggest the following:

Take the common words they spam, block them in your server configs.

Use a hostname blocker and add common words to it that are present in a lot of proxies. Here is one that I made a while ago: http://www.mxpulse.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=188

Some common words you should block right off the bat are Proxy, Server, Block, Tor and so on.

I have gone out of my way to compile a PG2 file of thousands of online socks 5 compatible proxy servers and I am willing to share the list with hosts that I can trust. If the list gets out in the public it will just give the spammers something to check their proxies against before beginning their spamming. So if you want the list, PM me and also include the room you host. Again this is a blocklist file for PG2 containing thousands of known SOCKS5 (e.g. WinMX Compatible) proxies.

Offline RReactor

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Re: A Spamming Problem
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2009, 08:03:50 am »
lol  from supervisor here to apprentice  i have had a few other ppl tell me that they have noticed  the person that i told tig and bluey  was caught using the ip with a wmw name spamming and with his own name with the same ip  a minute later  i can go ahead and pull the log files from my room and show you  that what is said is true  and the log files have tigs name and then back to  the person name and ip thats the same   you ppl judged  me on log files so what you gonna do about that ? isnt that proof for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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